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  • 9 months later...
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Hi guys

To power the board what is the best method or only method?

For example if i am using a GRLVs for my Dynahi should i have three power supplies one for each amp board and another for the protection board?or there is another way that i am missing?

Don´t hit me in the face if this is a noob question eh eh

Posted (edited)

Just power it from one of the amp PSUs, though I can't remember what the Protector's input voltage limit is. I assume your Dynahi is at +/-30? Check on the Protector...

EDIT: the boards have 7812/7912 regs on them, so the input voltage limit would be 35 Vdc.

 

 

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Edited by Pars
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10 hours ago, Pars said:

Just power it from one of the amp PSUs, though I can't remember what the Protector's input voltage limit is. I assume your Dynahi is at +/-30? Check on the Protector...

EDIT: the boards have 7812/7912 regs on them, so the input voltage limit would be 35 Vdc.

 

 

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Thanks Pars. Yes 30v. So there is no problem if I join two wires in the same output of one of the amps psu? By the way, do you have any of your boards that you could sell it to me? The Led is nice addition that I could use.

  • 6 months later...
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Kevin,

Want to build this board and try it instead of e12. Few questions if you allow:

Is trigger offset DC with standard resistors 0.5v? Is it from O+ to O- or from O+ to GND/O- to GND?

Is it suitable for non-differentail balanced amps like 4-board B22, 2-board KSA5?

Is it suitable for SE amps (like 2-board B22, 1-board KSA5)? Just use R+ and L+ terminals?

Input GND taken from where? If it's signal GND, then take it from any board? Can it be left unpopulated?

Posted

you can calculate and adjust what trigger voltage you want.

all 4 inputs (or 2 if you depopulate) are measured against ground. so any 1 or more of the inputs triggers the relays.

power supply ground is signal ground and has to be connected.

 

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  • 1 year later...
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I found a backplate for Neutrik NC4FAV at oshpark.com.

But I think I also need some protection for the dynamic headphones…

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…schematically same as Kevin’s protect3. Board size 2.75in x 1.95in. With a little creativity the board can probably be made a bit smaller.

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Very nice, JoaMat!

I did something similar but horizontally layed out and holding two 3-pin combo-Neutrik's and two 4-pin Neutrik, directly mounted to the board, including the SS/ZF relay switching circuit as well.

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Yep, smaller seems doable. Lm339 in so14 package and smd relay. Should be able to cnc mill board myself.

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  • 1 month later...
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Seems to work. The red LED turns off and on correctly. Red light means everything is OK – off means something is bad.  A green LED might be more appropriate.

The short uninsulated wires, one each side, is not to correct a mistake. It was the only way I find to get it working. The board has 19 vias. I did one mistake though. I gave the mosfet driving the relay a wrong footprint, but fortunately it was possible improvise… now it works as it should.

I’m waiting for the relay. Omron G6S-2G – surface mounted, good for 2 A.

 

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Nightly build
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Red LED indicates disengaged headphone. The green LED indicates power is on.

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Here red is out and headphone is connected.

Next build…
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…a bi-color LED to replace the two above LEDs.

 

 

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Next build – remove R1 ( don’t understand why I put it there – maybe because I’m an amateur) and R2 value is far too low, unless you want 40 mA through LED, so I switched to 1K.

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Small board 19mm x 15mm with the 555, a small PNP , three resistors and of course the bi color LED. Works perfect.

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During the last weeks I’ve built a few versions of the headphone protector. One small problem is voltage regulators, 7812 and 7912. Output voltages might differ more than 100mV from “specified “. 7812 at +12.1V and 7912 at -11,9V will move intended references 100mV. To tackle the problem, I made this resistor string.

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With above resistor string I can handle any deviations of the voltage regulators up to 200mV. If you want something else than +/-60mV trigger points, change the 1K resistor. 2K instead of 1K gives you +/-120mV.

I’ve enjoyed working with this protector project a lot. Thanks for designing this Headphone Protector, Kevin.

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  • 2 weeks later...
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What’s the purpose of the 555? It seems that it’s not doing much meaningful. Even if you want to keep it, at least its pin 3 and pin 7 output opposite polarities such that you won’t need another inverting stage outside…

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It’s not very clear in the schematic above (I’m sorry), but D15 and D16 is a bi color LED with common cathode. Below the two LEDs are replaced with a bi color device.

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The purpose of the 555 is make the LED red when relay is disengaged and green when engaged.

This is the way I found to get a simple red/green indicator working. 

On 10/3/2022 at 7:20 PM, JoaMat said:

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Small board 19mm x 15mm with the 555, a small PNP , three resistors and of course the bi color LED. Works perfect.

 

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