k1arg Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Gorgeous! The curved joint is amazingly powerful. But but but... details! Any tidbits about the topology? Which tubes, and are we looking at a pair of matched pairs, or a matched quad? Tube gain, input and output transfos, or something else... Does "Copenhagen" still mean there is a SS pentode inside? And just selfishly, is the output Z Focal-friendly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavitsk Posted April 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) The Copenhagen is a differential cascode circuit. The Copenhagen V uses tubes (valves) for the upper device, while the Copenhagen S uses transistors (sand). They are otherwise just about the same. It does indeed use input and output transformers (amorphous Lundahls in both cases, though the inputs can use mu metal instead). The tubes (E81L's) need not be matched at all. It is what is often called a "transconductance amp". In essence, it uses the headphone's impedance as an I/V converter, and it takes advantage of the slight Sennheiser impedance bump to make it a bit more euphonic. When used with Senns, I'd describe the sound as happy and punchy (kind of making them sound like how Grados would sound if they were not grating) - some people hate it, others love it, but it definitely has a sound. It can be linearized with the addition of some parallel resistance on the output (this is what a triode amp does except the parallel load is the tube plate impedance). Without doing that, it is not great with the Focals. Even with, they are so poorly damped that it would not be my first choice for powering them. With phones that have a flat impedance, it is pretty neutral. It's not an amp for everyone (definitely not for the objectivist crowd), but it is my favorite these days - I use a Copenhagen S with 650's for most pleasure listening. Edited April 13, 2018 by dsavitsk 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Damn Doug! I can't express how beautiful those are! Just wow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 ^^^ What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 ^^^definitely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Yes. Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavitsk Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 I still have a couple of prototype amplifiers available. One is a Black Diamond with an upgraded power supply ($1100). The other is a DSHA2 ($1200). Both amps use transformers for gain. More information at http://ecpaudio.com/stuff.shtml, or send me a PM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 I auditioned the blue DSHA-2 before and that's a great sounding amp. If not for owning the Ravenswood and L3, I would buy that in a hurry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavitsk Posted August 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 The T4 is now available for preorder. More info at Beezar.com. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Looks great, Doug. Goodbye, torpedo shape! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMoney Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 More like good riddance! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) The prototype T4 sounded amazing during the ATL minimeet. Has it got even better? Edited August 14, 2018 by purk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavitsk Posted August 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 Is amazing not good enough? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augsburger Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, dsavitsk said: Is amazing not good enough? This is Headcase. There are many levels above "amazing" - uber amazing, holy frickin' shit amazing The Mother of All amps amazing and of course "I eargasmed" amazing. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMoney Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 Not to mention the Infinite Jest-esque "it is so amazing that people who listen to it literally die from happiness!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 8 hours ago, dsavitsk said: Is amazing not good enough? With your amps, "sounding amazing" is just the norm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augsburger Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 On 4/13/2018 at 1:52 PM, k1arg said: Gorgeous! The curved joint is amazingly powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) You're so right! Edited August 16, 2018 by Voltron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopants Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 The internal pictures are gorgeous, hard to convince myself not to pull the trigger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recstar24 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Maybe this is a good time to repurpose the T3 design into a phono stage #wishfulthinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspirou Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 So what are the differences between this and the L3? Also now that the torpedo series isn't DIY anymore, is there any major difference in how you approach the T4/T5 and the other ECP amps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavitsk Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 The L3 is a single feed (not single ended) differential tube amp. The T4 is a parafeed differential hybrid amp. The T5 will be, if it every gets done, a more powerful version of the T4 that also does away with the parafeed cap. The T4 was designed to be less expensive by reducing the power and by eliminating a bunch of assembly labor. But within its output limits I think it is 98% of the quality of the other amps. There are of course a few things you can do with a higher budget, but they are mostly gild on a lily. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 I hope that your T5 will sound worst than the L3 that I have..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recstar24 Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 10 hours ago, purk said: I hope that your T5 will sound worst than the L3 that I have..... Probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 7 hours ago, recstar24 said: Probably not I heard the prototype T5 and it was more or less the same as my L3. Of course, that was a prototype unit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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