skullguise Posted March 21, 2012 Report Posted March 21, 2012 Belated well done, Nate! I'm waiting for the replies like" Well, Audio-GD does xxxx technology and it costs 1/3 the price....." The ECP equipment exudes style, and deep care in design, parts, and function. That is clearly evident in the review, and on the web site. 1
guzziguy Posted March 21, 2012 Report Posted March 21, 2012 Well done, Nate. Your reviews are as nice and tidy as your builds. I'm envious of both abilities.
dsavitsk Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Posted March 21, 2012 Correct me if I am wrong, but the L2 is not a hybrid if you are meaning hybrid as in an amp that has a tube and SS gain stage. The L-2 is a hybrid in the sense that it uses both tube and solid state parts in active roles. But, the term is typically used for something that uses a tube for voltage gain and a solid state buffer, which is not the topology used. In the case of the L-2, as Nate noted, the tube is used for both voltage and current. Solid state parts are used for rectifiers, voltage regulators, constant current sources, and biasing shunt regulators. In other words, the tubes do the work, but the solid state parts set the operating points. Also, the clear up a point, the output transformer has 32 and 300 ohm taps (labeled lo and hi on the front). The transformers have plenty of inductance such that any dynamic headphone should be fine -- you just choose the one that is closest. At the extreme, I found that with 600 ohm Beyers, it was helpful to put a 600 ohm resistor in parallel (to make a 300 ohm load) to make them sound their best (and the T1's did sound pretty good, b/t/w/ -- actually quite a nice combination) through they worked OK without. Gain into 32 ohm is actually a little less than 5 -- just a bit over 3. Into 300 ohms it is around 8. These can vary slightly with different tubes. Practical power limit is a little under 1/2W, though distortion will be pretty high at that point.
Tyll Hertsens Posted March 21, 2012 Report Posted March 21, 2012 Feel free to write me up a manufacturers comment, if you'd like Doug. Be happy to post something.
K3cT Posted March 23, 2012 Report Posted March 23, 2012 dsavitsk, thank you for the helpful explanation. And to all, my bad if I caused a little confusion because I used the term "hybrid" quite loosely back then. I just thought that the L-2 doesn't look like a "traditional" tube amplifier so I went ahead with that term.
teufelshunde Posted March 23, 2012 Report Posted March 23, 2012 Nate, I added Doug's L-2 and DSHA-1 amps to the Head Gear section next door. I used the L-2 photo from your InnerFidelity article. If you or Tyll consider this a a violation of permissible use policy please let me know and I'll pull the photo post haste. T.
Tyll Hertsens Posted March 23, 2012 Report Posted March 23, 2012 No worries on my part. I think they're Nate's photos.
n_maher Posted March 23, 2012 Report Posted March 23, 2012 Fine with me as long as innerfidelity gets a photo credit. And yes, I took the photos used for the article.
teufelshunde Posted March 23, 2012 Report Posted March 23, 2012 Done. Here's the replacement L-2 photo. If this doesn't pass muster, please let me know.
swt61 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Really nice review. I like the straight forward approach, without unnecessary verbage. I remember being impressed with the CJ10 prototypes. I also love Doug's "understated elegance" approach to design aesthetic. Who in the world does that remind me of? Funny your mention of the muddy mids of the Adcom. I did not pick up on this myself, until comparison to the Buffalo II. Spot on though.
tkam Posted April 12, 2012 Report Posted April 12, 2012 I received the new updated PSU for my L-2 a week or two ago now. Some pics below for anyone interested. The L-2 that I have now I initially had as a demo unit, Doug was extremely patient and let me demo it for an extended amount of time. I also want to point out his outstanding customer service, I sent in the "old" PSU for the L-2 and had the new one back in my hands within a week. In my book that's pretty outstanding turnaround time and the workmanship is top notch as well. As for how the L-2 sounds - I think it's an extraordinary amp. It does an excellent job of getting out of the way - I've been using it with my LCD-2's and they've never sounded better. Btw, nice review Nate I agree with pretty much everything you said.
n_maher Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 Nice Todd, glad you're getting to sample the L-2 and enjoying it. No doubt that Doug's customer service is phenominal.
aardvark baguette Posted May 9, 2012 Report Posted May 9, 2012 is the power supply for the DSHA-1 around the same width as the one for the L-2?
dsavitsk Posted May 9, 2012 Author Report Posted May 9, 2012 There are two different power supplies for the DSHA-1. One of them (the "ecp power supply") uses the same case as the L-2's power supply except that there are no venting holes cut in it. It is 8" x 4" x ~2.5". The other is an off the shelf AC wall wart (basically a transformer in a box).
dsavitsk Posted May 9, 2012 Author Report Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) A reminder that I have a small number of DSHA-1 prototypes available. Circuit wise, these are virtually identical to the production version. The differences being that these run at about 75% the current of the production version, and they use the LL1544a input transformer rather than the LL1674. Both transformers are high quality, amorphous core Lundahls. The difference between them is that the 1544 is a 1:1 or 1:2 step up while the 1674 is a 1:2 or 1:4, and the level handling of the 1544 is a bit lower, so with a very hot source (Meridian), you can clip them in the extreme bass. That all means that the protos won't go quite as loud. Subjectively, they feel like they have a little less bass weight. However, they represent about 95% of the performance for much less money. They do quite well with both Grado and Sennheisers, and are what I use for general listening. These are $925 shipped in the US. Each comes with the AC wall wart power supply and a balanced to TRS adapter for using unbalanced headphones. Edited May 9, 2012 by dsavitsk
jpelg Posted June 26, 2012 Report Posted June 26, 2012 ecp Audio mentioned in ApartmentTherapy.com article for Pickett Furniture: http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/pickett-furniture-morkt-samfunn-console-dwell-on-design-2012-173238 Congrats Doug!
dsavitsk Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Posted June 26, 2012 The console has a DAC (which is a scaled down version of the Walnut circuit) fed from a built-in Airport Express, a tube phono stage, and an EL84 based fully differential, Class A power amp. (The speakers were designed for us by Dave at Planet 10.) As of now, the components are not really stand-alone products, but the power amp could be at some point.
M3NTAL Posted June 26, 2012 Report Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) What type of potentiometer is being used the in the L-2 and DSHA-1 ? I didn't see them listed in the decription on the website. I'm hoping to get a chance to see and hear them in person - they look excellent in photos! Edited June 26, 2012 by M3NTAL
dsavitsk Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Posted June 26, 2012 Both use Alps Blue pots. In the DSHA, it is configured as a shunting pot which removes it from the signal path.
dsavitsk Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Posted September 26, 2012 The Pickett Furniture/ecp audio Morkt Samfunn Console is up on Apartment Therapy as a submission in their 2012 Design Showcase! 2
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