swt61 Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Craig Sawyers said: Not what I meant. I meant the angle the tooth makes with the radius. I use the term rake angle, but the alternative name is hook angle. I use a triple chip blade with negative rake in my radial arm saw - in that machine a positive tooth angle grabs the stock and the blade tries to climb out of the wood; that is not a good outcome. A negative rake gives much more control. The choice will definitely be different with a table saw, where the blade has to act to hold the piece firmly on the table. Unfortunately I have to use whatever cheap ass blade the boss buys, as I no longer work for myself. 54 minutes ago, luvdunhill said: Damn, can you still use a router? Still need some cleaning up on the corner speakers. Oh wait; too soon? Seriously, that sucks. If I am picturing what happened, would it be safe to assume even SawStop wouldn't have helped? Not too soon, all humor is welcomed. SawStop would not have helped at all in this case, as it was the board itself that stripped my finger of flesh. So, Carrot Finger lives! X-rays looked great. The Dr. was very happy with the previous Dr.s closing of the wound, and was also happy to see the mobility in my finger. Thumb was more hashed than I originally realized, but still nothing like the finger. I was given a cleaning regimen and finger exercises. The Dr. says it should heal and recover nicely. It'll just look funky. Have a follow up in a week, then one more in two weeks. And that should do it. I'm very happy with the prognosis! Thanks so much for all the well wishes, not sure you guys know how much they help! 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkam Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 That sounds like an excellent prognosis, here's to hoping for a speedy and relatively pain free recovery! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, dsavitsk said: Sounds like it wouldn't. The Sawstop mechanism is for stopping and retracting the blade when it is touched. But you'll have to ask Steve whether the blade guard or kickback pawls that also come on it might have helped. I think the general consensus with table saws is that kickback injuries are more common, but blade injuries tend to be more serious. However, kickback injuries can become blade injuries in a hurry. It is my opinion that a kickback guard & fingers and a riving knife certainly couldn't hurt, and may well have prevented the injury. Again, not my equipment, though you can bet I'll insist on it now! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbut Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Fantastic to hear about your hand Dr visit Steve! I bet that was a huge relief (I know it was for me)! I wish I lived about 1k miles closer. I'd be happy to lend a hand (bad joke) while you recover. Even if it's only to wipe you ass. Get well soon! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavitsk Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 17 minutes ago, swt61 said: Again, not my equipment Lawsuits against table saw manufacturers who have not included standard safety equipment, and companies who have not supplied their workers with said equipment are a thing. Riving knifes are bog standard at this point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypasswordis Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Wow, scary stuff but good to hear the prognosis... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziguy Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Steve, so sorry the accident happened. I'm even more glad that the prognosis is so positive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Let this serve as a good lesson. I'm very familiar with tablesaws, and yet things can still go very wrong. Stay away if you're not completely comfortable with the tool. And always be sure that someone is close by, just in case. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I'm delighted with the wonderful news, Steve. I'm sure you're a good patient and you'll do all the hand doc said. Take care of yourself and heal well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvlgato Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Ouch! Sorry, Steve, that's just awful!But very glad for the good news on the follow up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 4 hours ago, tkam said: That sounds like an excellent prognosis, here's to hoping for a speedy and relatively pain free recovery! This. So much this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I'm glad that things are turning out so positive. When I sliced my finger open (not off, as in your case), the doctor prescribed me this: go to Giant, get the cheapest bag of rice you can get, put it in a container, then dig around in it like you're trying to find something. I ended up falling in love with the smell of that brown rice. I still love brown rice to this day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 ^ I'm going to assume Giant is probably some kind of grocery store. Otherwise I'll have to wait until Stretch moves back to the U.S. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 ...and starts selling cheap rice. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sawyers Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 13 hours ago, swt61 said: Unfortunately I have to use whatever cheap ass blade the boss buys, as I no longer work for myself. Steve, FWIW I use blades from this outfit http://www.awsaws.uk/home_page.html . They do mildly custom stuff at not a lot more; my Wadkin RAS is old (the original round arm BRA), and it has an odd imperial diameter shaft. They modify by adding a pressed in feature to suit whatever diameter shaft your machine has. I recall that the blades that I have were the equivalent of $120-$140 each. Not cheap, but they are superb blades. I see that they do blades with anti-kickback features (page 5 of their catalogue http://www.awsaws.uk/ELECTRONIC CATALOGUE.pdf ), which I urge your cheapskate boss to invest in. And a riving knife, which I would have thought was essential for a table saw. Like everyone else, I'm massively impressed with how chilled you are about all this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Craig, I will certainly look into them. Also, the boss and I are going to have a talk about safety in general. I feel like I have more of a leg to stand on now (if less of a finger). As far as how calm I am, I get that from my Dad. My Brothers are the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp11801 Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Steve just saw this and am really sorry this happened to you. Glad to hear that things are progressing ok all things considered. You are way more calm then I'd be at the moment. Hope to see you soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvlgato Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Waiting to renew drivers license in person. Cranky people. Only one open chair. No wonder, screaming toddler in front of me. Cute bright eyed 16 year olds taking drivers tests. I wonder if they'll take my picture? I guess I should have combed my hair and rubbed the crust out of my eyes. Oh well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD44hi Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Catching up with this. Steve hope for the best possible outcome and a super speedy recovery. Perhaps you should consider a golden point [emoji121]️ to your digit "a la" Jaime Lannister [emoji12]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPI Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Good to hear things are working out as well as possible Steve. I would recommend you come up with a much cooler story to explain the finger to impress the boys. Sword fight, shrapnel, saving puppies from a wood chipper...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 I like the saving puppies one! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Secret Santa really came through for me! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sechtdamon Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 I settled completely in my room Today. Residance's owners are really good people, last week I said that I need bigger room for my table, and they arranged one for me. Here is the a part of my room: Btw as a welcome, two bombs has been detonated in Beşiktaş, 2,5 kms away from my residance... 20 people has been wounded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullguise Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Congrat....and WHOA! (Room and bombs respectively). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 7 hours ago, CD44hi said: Catching up with this. Steve hope for the best possible outcome and a super speedy recovery. Perhaps you should consider a golden point ️ to your digit "a la" Jaime Lannister Surely an ebony finger extension would be more appropriate? I don't think I adequately responded, but I can think of no adequate words, other than good on you for taking it so calmly, good on you for keeping it together when you needed to get to the hospital, and I continue to wish for the most positive of prognosisses...prognoses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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