CarlSeibert Posted May 4, 2014 Author Report Posted May 4, 2014 May 31 according to the email I got this weekend. There is a button in the email for two free months of the new thing. Apparently, you need to overlap subscriptions if you want to migrate your playlists. I'm going to make a playlist with one song each from the several hundred artists in my favorites and migrate that. Actually, it may take two or three playlists. I thing there's a 250 item limit per list.
CarlSeibert Posted May 6, 2014 Author Report Posted May 6, 2014 So I clicked the sign-up button. Good news: the Android app seems way better. Bad news: the sign up functionality doesn't work right. The web client lacks basic functionality (and basically looks unfinished, probably because it is.) The customer service experience is a disaster . They don't even make the effort to participate in their user forum (which is basically a rant fest). And if I was to guess, the same old crew of inept and arrogant developers is still in residence. And this is on their second try at launching. Arrrrrgh! Where is Healthcare.gov when you need it....
CarlSeibert Posted May 8, 2014 Author Report Posted May 8, 2014 And now this: Apple in talks for $3.2bn Beats deal http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/e330e830-d6f3-11e3-b95e-00144feabdc0.html#axzz31ANwwJBJ Real this time? Given the lousy job Beats is doing with its launch, it might not even be a bad (worse) thing......
Tyll Hertsens Posted May 9, 2014 Report Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) I like it! I can't see a picture of Iovine without thinking he's a massive douche-nozzle. News feed are saying this is about Beats streaming service, but I think Apple could really benefit from the active headphone platform. They'll prolly stick a bunch of sensors in the cans, but at least there won't be friggen thugs running the show. Edit: I take that back, Al. At least there won't be neanderthal thugs running the show...they'll be sophisticated thugs. Edited May 9, 2014 by Tyll Hertsens 2
Grahame Posted May 13, 2014 Report Posted May 13, 2014 Meanwhile, well thought out article at el Reg http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/13/apple_beats_and_fools_with_money/ 1
manaox2 Posted May 15, 2014 Report Posted May 15, 2014 I don't know if any of you pay for spotify premium and use windows, but if so,the Fidelify app, at http://fidelify.net/ recently updated and seems to allow you to use wasapi exclusive mode. Sounds much better to my ears and the GUI is decent and usable.
Grahame Posted May 15, 2014 Report Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) Or use the squeezebox client / plugin ... Edited May 15, 2014 by Grahame
shellylh Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 http://www.marcurselli.com/2014/03/03/the-truth-about-music-streaming-services-and-the-ultimate-audio-quality-shootout-test-beats-vs-mog-vs-play-music-by-google-vs-rdio-vs-spotify/ Does Beats stream CD quality music over wifi? I thought the best streaming you can get was 320 mp3. I just glanced at the results so maybe his test is flawed.
postjack Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 http://www.marcurselli.com/2014/03/03/the-truth-about-music-streaming-services-and-the-ultimate-audio-quality-shootout-test-beats-vs-mog-vs-play-music-by-google-vs-rdio-vs-spotify/ Does Beats stream CD quality music over wifi? I thought the best streaming you can get was 320 mp3. I just glanced at the results so maybe his test is flawed. Doesn't make sense to me. My understanding is the only streaming service that does lossless is Qobuz (not available in the US yet). All others are 320 max. Though I have no complaints about the sound quality of my Play stream from Chromecast. Sounds good.
manaox2 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) First, makes no mention if Spotify premium or not. It streams in higher quality. Secondly, this is a horrible test that assumes all the data sent is audio data and not cover art, advertisements, album listings, caching of the next track, etc. Edited May 20, 2014 by manaox2
Grahame Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Inefficient protocols, Meta data to the NSA ....
justin Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 http://www.marcurselli.com/2014/03/03/the-truth-about-music-streaming-services-and-the-ultimate-audio-quality-shootout-test-beats-vs-mog-vs-play-music-by-google-vs-rdio-vs-spotify/ Does Beats stream CD quality music over wifi? I thought the best streaming you can get was 320 mp3. I just glanced at the results so maybe his test is flawed. havent looked at the link, but its pretty common for non-audiophiles to describe anything higher than 128kbps mp3 as "CD quality"
CarlSeibert Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) They're blithering incompetents, but they only claim to do 320 Kbps MP3s. I doubt they would accidentally do higher quality. In the settings for mobile, you can choose to do 320 only over WiFi or on any connection. Like Justin said, maybe somebody misinterpreted that to mean "CD quality" Meanwhile, after two weeks, they did process the refund for incorrectly billing me. But they said my account, as viewed on their website, wouldn't reflect the refund, because, well, they're pretty screwed up. That said, I haven't found anything wrong with the Android app yet. Mind, it doesn't do anything special either. I've yet to see any evidence of "just hit play" our any other life-changing inventions. It's basically just MOG on a better app. Except that I nearly always used MOG on the web, and the web client is useless. Edited May 20, 2014 by CarlSeibert
shellylh Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 <rant>I just signed up for a 30 day trial of Spotify (not attached to my FB account) and so far I hate hate hate it. (I was hoping that it would be reasonable since there is an app on Logitech Touch.) The desktop app keeps trying to connect to all kinds of weird sites on weird ports like "Spotify wants to connect to 98.220.235.210 on TCP port 52655" (according to Little Snitch). In this case, it is just Comcast (either an ad or getting information from Spotify). In either case, it is just annoying. Also, I hate the layout of the desktop app (too much crap on it)!!! </rant> I guess I might end up using BeatOff after all.
Dusty Chalk Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Interesting, I'll have to monitor it more carefully -- I didn't realize I had set it up such that I wasn't monitoring what ports it was using, I transitioned from the web app to the desktop app without a second thought...
Grahame Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 That's because the spotify desktop app is peer-to-peer http://blog.launch.co/blog/did-you-know-spotify-uses-peer-to-peer-networking.html http://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Mac-and/Spotify-P2P-uploading-and-cache/td-p/311368 http://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Mac-and/Unadvertised-P2P-feature/td-p/398612 But that's changing .... http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/17/spotify-removes-peer-to-peer-technology-from-its-desktop-client/ http://torrentfreak.com/spotify-starts-shutting-down-its-massive-p2p-network-140416/
shellylh Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 Ah, that makes a lot more sense now - But I still don't like it. Perhaps I'll try out the web browser interface until they change. Does anyone know if the SB Touch app use PTP or server streaming, I'm guessing the latter.
Grahame Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) I think the SB Touch App is non P2P as there is no/limited local storage. Spotify Premium is required. Triode's Server Based plugin is similar / Better , as it has more (menu) options, and allows you to stream spotify to older / software based clients .. (not just touch and radio) (non p2p also as it uses the web api ) More Details here ... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96330-What-steps-do-I-take-to-download-and-install-Triode-s-Spotify-plug-in Edited May 20, 2014 by Grahame
CarlSeibert Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Posted May 20, 2014 That's because the spotify desktop app is peer-to-peer http://blog.launch.co/blog/did-you-know-spotify-uses-peer-to-peer-networking.html http://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Mac-and/Spotify-P2P-uploading-and-cache/td-p/311368 http://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Mac-and/Unadvertised-P2P-feature/td-p/398612 But that's changing .... http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/17/spotify-removes-peer-to-peer-technology-from-its-desktop-client/ http://torrentfreak.com/spotify-starts-shutting-down-its-massive-p2p-network-140416/ About time! I was always mystified as to why American consumers ever put up with that at all.
shellylh Posted May 21, 2014 Report Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Does anyone know how to change the streaming qualify on the spotify web player? According to this, the web player streaming default is ~160 kbps. I would prefer to not use the desktop player until it is no longer PTP. Edit: This seems to imply that the highest quality streaming one can do with the web based player is 160 kbps. Ugh, so frustrating. https://support.spotify.com/us/learn-more/faq/#!/article/What-bitrate-does-Spotify-use-for-streaming/?in=search Why in the world would you allow higher quality streaming on ios and android devices than you do for the web based player??? Edited May 21, 2014 by shellylh
Dusty Chalk Posted May 21, 2014 Report Posted May 21, 2014 Edit->Preferences->Playback->High Quality Streaming. And: I have no idea, it's just retarded. They (used to?) have a bug in which on Android tablets, you lost the Extreme Quality option depending on the orientation of the tablet. It's the main reason I have a premium subscription.
shellylh Posted May 21, 2014 Report Posted May 21, 2014 ^I meant the web player, not the desktop player. I am guessing there is no way to stream at 320kbps with the web player. There is nothing you can change in the settings.
VPI Posted May 21, 2014 Report Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) I stream 320 on Spotify desktop. It is only available to Premium members though. I didn't even know there was a web player. Edited May 21, 2014 by VPI
shellylh Posted May 21, 2014 Report Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) I don't want to use the Spotify desktop app because it uses PTP instead of streaming from the server- so I was trying out the web player. I have a premium membership for now. Edited May 21, 2014 by shellylh
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