Landis Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 I'm expecting about $4500 street price in the usa. Yep, not cheap. Worth it. Seriously worth it. Better and non-resonant stators than the he90. Less internal reflection. Have you heard these fellows, Dr. Gilmore? One could buy a decent rig and a few hookers with such money.
Salt Peanuts Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 you could only rent the hookers. You could buy a brothel. Though I suspect a brothel would cost a good deal more than $4500.
mypasswordis Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Should be a good source of income.
Salt Peanuts Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Should be a good source of income. And a legal one as well in the right state.
jgazal Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 I am trying to understand what a “fixed pole” is. Does anybody have a clue?
Cynric Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 That's where the hookers in your brothel are aquiring thier customers.
jgazal Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Okay, very funny. But it was a serious question...
Cynric Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 look at post #25, that was a mistranslation, ujamerstand posted the correct one...
kevin gilmore Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) Yes i have heard them. Fixed pole in this case means the rigidity of the stator. The design of the stator is years in the making. And far better than etched and plated glass, or copper on phenolic stators. The other pieces allow the earcups to rotate better front to back. You really want these things. Welcome to head-case and sorry about your wallet. Now if stax was going to actually do a T2 version 2, (correctly this time) with these headphones, the MSRP would likely be well into the $25k range... As it is, with the diy T2 and these headphones, the results are truely glorious. Edited October 24, 2010 by kevin gilmore
jgazal Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 look at post #25, that was a mistranslation, ujamerstand posted the correct one... Yes i have heard them. Fixed pole in this case means the rigidity of the stator. The design of the stator is years in the making. And far better than etched and plated glass, or copper on phenolic stators. The other pieces allow the earcups to rotate better front to back. You really want these things. Now I get it! I am always late... About the air displacement with mid-bass and bass frequencies: I forgot dimensional analysis once more. SR-003 is in-ear, with the smallest stator and membrane and has enough bass (less air inside the chamber, less air volume to be driven). Perhaps those outer holes are just for anchor. Best regards, Jose
spritzer Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Those outer holes are probably there to secure the insulation and the diaphragm mounting to the stators. Stax have taken the necessary lessons from their errors with the SR-Omega where the whole housing would loosen up with time and cause driver issues. Most users don't realize that the hex bolts at the back (well 3 of them at least) are there to secure the resin shell and the 4 screws underneath the earpads do the same plus keeping the whole driver assembly under tension. Making sure these are properly fixed should keep the phones running for decades. As for the stators, it is all about having a non resonant structure. With the He90 (the HE60 used molded plastic with conductive paint) Sennheiser used etched glass panels for stiff and well damped stators but since the technology to do this was in its infancy in the early 90's, rejection rate was very high. That is probably why no two HE90's sound the same since no two drivers are identical. Since day one Stax have used solid brass plates for stators, mostly uncoated. The only exception was the SR-X Mk1 which used mesh electrodes but since I've never owned one, I don't know why they discontinued that model so quickly. These brass plates are set in a plastic frame which provides insulation and also sets the correct diaphragm/stator distance. All of the phones made prior to 1993 were like that but the SR-Omega and the Nova series changed things. I covered the Omega driver above but the Nova models (well the Classic and the Signature, Basic still used the old stator design) moved to a coated metal stators to eliminate arcing and to damp the metal plates. The SR-007 is different since its drivers are dirt cheap to make using PCB material but the money is spent elsewhere. PCB's are actually a good choice since they are naturally insulated, very strong, stiff and dirt cheap to make in massive numbers. As for the arc, it looks very odd indeed. I can't but cringe a bit when I catch my reflection wearing the 507...
Wmcmanus Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 I am trying to understand what a “fixed pole” is. Does anybody have a clue? You would have to rent (not buy) strippers (not hookers).
jgazal Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Those outer holes... Thank you for the input. You guys here at head-case are a Stax encyclopedia. You would have to rent (not buy) strippers (not hookers). Okay, you are allowed to make fun on me. I can take it.
Wmcmanus Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 No, we are the Stax Mafia... So you own a pair now, do these puppies really cost $4,500?
spritzer Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 They haven't been released so I don't have a set. KG has heard them though but no price has been set yet. I'd venture a guess and say they will be close to 400KYen...
guzziguy Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 I hope that people who get them really enjoy them. At $5K I don't really need them.
mrmarbach Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 KG has heard them though but no price has been set yet. Aha, now it's getting interesting. What did he say about them, I wonder...
spritzer Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Buy one I believe was the exact phrase...
mrmarbach Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Buy one I believe was the exact phrase... (reaches for wallet)
Dusty Chalk Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Dang, I wonder if you could easily disassemble them and get the aluminum parts anodized black? I like the way you think and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Region2 Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 As it is, with the diy T2 and these headphones, the results are truely glorious. Sorry if this seems a little ignorant. Since you picked out the T2 specifically, would it not be as good on the BH?
atothex Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 I'm feelin kinda meh about the looks, but this ranks very high on the must-hear list.
Smeggy Posted October 25, 2010 Report Posted October 25, 2010 yah, it certainly has a case of the uglies in my view as well as being way beyond any price aspirations i may have. I bet it sounds absolute killer. this will add to the ever growing list of omegas I'll probably never hear... like all the others
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