Jon L Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 YouTube - FUJIYAllAVIC's Channel Anyone speak Japanese to translate??
n_maher Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 Dang, I wonder if you could easily disassemble them and get the aluminum parts anodized black?
Nebby Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 Dang, I wonder if you could easily disassemble them and get the aluminum parts anodized black? Would it then be the Darth Omega?
Hopstretch Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 Dang, I wonder if you could easily disassemble them and get the aluminum parts anodized black? Boo! Ssssssilver!
monsieurguzel Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 Is it just me or does that driver look huge!! Did the original Omega driver have the 8-point star integrated in the driver or was it a seperate piece?
spritzer Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 (edited) Silver is the only way. This was very interesting though, plenty of data on how they are made. So they have the old PC-OCC cable (silver stipes) and not the new 6N silver plated unit. That is the stator he's holding through most of the interview and it looks like an aluminum frame with either a mesh or very finely etched electrode. This means a very strong driver so here hoping they stick with SR-007 engineering to anchor the driver into the housing. The SR-507 certainly points to Stax taking that route in general... Is it just me or does that driver look huge!! Did the original Omega driver have the 8-point star integrated in the driver or was it a seperate piece? The SR-Omega driver is 90mm across (about 80mm of usable diaphragm space) so it's not surprising. The SR-Omega driver is a resin frame which has the cartwheel supports and then a gold plated copper mesh was glued to that. There were then brass rings which held the diaphragm in place and the dust covers and the whole assembly was stacked inside a resin framework inside the cups. The actual metal is only about 1mm thick which is why I just call them the tin-can... Edited October 23, 2010 by spritzer
deepak Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 God damn those might be the best looking headphones ever made. Dew want translation
ujamerstand Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 There wasn't a whole lot of technical information in there apparently. I had a friend who knows Japanese help me translate what he was saying. He said that there was no official name for the the product yet, but it is code named c32. The frames are all hand crafted. It's being done for the 50th anniversary of Stax. Then he talked about how the thing works in general, what's important in designing the driver and stuff. But yeah, because of the special driver the new flagship is around 300,000 to 500,000 yen.
spritzer Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 I knew these weren't going to be cheap... Goes off to hatch an evil plan to drive the market value of the Yen down to sane levels....
n3rdling Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 Is there any chance of Stax releasing a new monster amp at the same time as this flagship? Or did the T2 put an end to that?
spritzer Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 The T2 could be made a whole lot simpler with modern sand and a different take on the design but then you'd just end up with the BH. It will never be a cheap option but Stax are ok with making less profit from the amps then the headphones so they could do something cool...
ujamerstand Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 50th Anniversary Stax amp? I thought that's the kgsshv?
deepak Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 (edited) I knew these wouldn't be priced anywhere near SR-007 territory. If Sennheiser can charge $5000-6500 (whatever the last batch of HE90 cost) for wood and plastic, Stax certainly can do it with a better made product. Edited October 23, 2010 by deepak
GPH Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 How much was the SR-Omega priced originally?
Salt Peanuts Posted October 23, 2010 Report Posted October 23, 2010 (edited) How much was the SR-Omega priced originally? 180,000 JPY in 1993. I don't know how much that is in today's money. YouTube - FUJIYAllAVIC's Channel Anyone speak Japanese to translate?? If no one else gets to it, I'll see about it (even if just the main points). Edited October 23, 2010 by Salt Peanuts
kevin gilmore Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 I'm expecting about $4500 street price in the usa. Yep, not cheap. Worth it. Seriously worth it. Better and non-resonant stators than the he90. Less internal reflection.
jgazal Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 (...) That is the stator he's holding through most of the interview and it looks like an aluminum frame with either a mesh or very finely etched electrode. This means a very strong driver so here hoping they stick with SR-007 engineering to anchor the driver into the housing. (...) (...) Better and non-resonant stators than the he90. Less internal reflection. A stator with larger diameter and a mesh with more and smaller holes than O2 force them to integrate a cartwheel to strengthen the whole thing. In the end, there is a less resonant stator with a larger usable area (bass...). Am I Right? I know I am always asking, please do not shoot me... ) Smaller holes within the mesh contribute with a reduction of high frequency reflections, right? Reflection is not such a problem with bass and midrange frequencies (not directional frequencies), right? It seems that a mesh with smaller holes constrains the bass/mid-bass air displacement so those outer holes need to be big enough for that purpose. I presume that they calculate those hole diameters according to the frequencies, right? What about those larger wholes outside the mesh? Is bass/mid-bass air displacement flowing through them? Or they are going to be used to anchor the driver into the housing? I would like to see a simulation of how the Mylar membrane vibrates with bass mid-bass frequencies (I’ve seen them in diyaudio once, but I do not remember which thread). It seems to me that this new stator changes the way/pattern the membrane vibrates. I does not seem a new Omega to me. This thing is a whole new better model. I think they are not going to discontinue the O2. This thing is a new flagship. Omega name was a reference to the circular stator, right? C32 (apparently the prototype code) might receive a totally new name.
Deadneddz Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 The strain relief looks like the functional MK2 version which is good news. The arc assembly does look like it could be very tall if its stretched out, so I can definitely picture how odd it might look on a person with a big head... I wonder if this is going to be a long stay production model or a limited series like the SR-Omega or 404LE? I'm also wondering where this one falls in the Stax headphone lineup since they aren't pulling the O2, I guess price-wise it suggests flagship.
jgazal Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 FUJIYA AVIC placed on the STAX new flagship video interview: STAX new products to be looking のインタ Bldg ュー2010 = Some highlights: 1. Official name yet to be determined, the current is codenamed C32 2. Is a higher level than the SR007 series (not just like the 007 -> 007MK2 this upgrade product) 3. And other new series like the adjustable headband 4. Development opportunity, because this year is the 50th anniversary of SR-1 on sale, there is a sense of mission to develop new electrode 5. Increase the fixed pole fixed (less vibration) 6. Fixed a very a reduced temperature, ventilation holes in the central open 7. But because it has become fixed very weak shock resistance, so this is a fixed pole at high temperature synthesis of 1 from the 3-layer body 8. Voices, in addition to the traditional thin STAX sense, but because of the increased strength can also be given more accurate low-frequency 9. The biggest drawback is the price the electrode is very high, not only with a 3-layer structure, the synthesis of high temperature and pressure of the high cost, cost around 30 million yen to 50 million, the official price yet OK Also the message is the 10/30 Autumn Festival will debut the headset, but can not determine whether Lyrics: P from: bfh's blog - STAX C32
ujamerstand Posted October 24, 2010 Report Posted October 24, 2010 Bad google translate, bad. 30萬~50萬 is 30,0000 ~ 50,0000 not 30 million to 50 million. Looks like my friend left out a bunch of things. Sorry. Number 6 says that the hole in the center is to reduce the temperature of the driver. Number 7 says that the stator is formed from 3 pieces under high temperature and pressure.
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