Apple TV

[grawk]

what do you mean by that? You man a nas drive? Because, well...

[crappyjones123]

USB drive connected to the laptop. Even the ones connected to the AirPort Extreme by USB.

[Grahame]

Anyone with a device that displays locked bitrate that can confirm / deny that the Apple TV  re-samples 44.1 -> 48 KHz ,

as opposed to AEX leaving it unmolested ? ( not that you are likely to hear the aliasing, but still, for the OCD types amongst us ...)

[shellylh]

I can check later today unless someone else does it first. 

[Grahame]

Shelly, Did you ever find out? (between Martini's no doubt    ) 

[shellylh]

Sorry, I was thinking someone else already checked and responded. I'll check when I get back from the play we are headed to (and before the next Martini).

[The Monkey]

FYI, gang, I tried to update my Apple TV today to 6.0 and it done got bricked.  Not cool.  A quick search revealed that I'm not alone.  The fix was to plug in the Apple TV to my MBP via USB micro, then use iTunes to restore the Apple TV.  That worked.  But it was very annoying.

[AstroTurf]

^ Same here. Bricked.

[shellylh]

Thanks for the warning.

[shellylh]

Sorry Grahame... indeed Apple TV  re-samples 44.1 -> 48 KHz (at least with whatever version I have on the Apple TV - I haven't upgraded to 6.0).  

 

 

[shellylh]

For those with Apple TVs, I'm considering one for a gift and was wondering for those times using it only for audio - any issues running with TV off/unplugged? Appears not from web, but soliciting HC specialists. Person has iPhone/iPad to control. 

 

I know that Dan already answered but thought I would still reply.  I tested ipad/computer -> Apple TV with both the optical and HDMI output (directly to the receiver) and with the tv off and it works great (just make sure you don't require an onscreen code).

[blessingx]

Thanks both of you. Giving as present in about 20 minutes. This should work.

[Grahame]

Thanks for confirming Shelly. I now have the evidence to silence a fanboi at work. Why would they do that? (Other than to force the obsessives/purists to buy both an AEX and ATV). Be interested to know what happens with integrated Airplay in AVR's if anyone else has the technology.

[Dusty Chalk]

Without additional knowledge -- because it's easier to code.  But that's super-wild-ass guessing.

[blessingx]

Thanks for confirming Shelly. I now have the evidence to silence a fanboi at work. Why would they do that? (Other than to force the obsessives/purists to buy both an AEX and ATV).

Working in video daily... cause it's the video standard. Only oddballs use 44.1 xX.

[Grahame]

Strange, as they managed un-resampled audio in the previous versions of ATV. Progress, eh?

[blessingx]

Well, not to be an apologist, and I don't really have strong evidence to back this up, but we pass along a lot of videos from third parties to display at events, in lobbies, etc. in a variety of A/V systems (from smart to dumb) and the video plays/audio doesn't scenario tends to include 44.1 audio. Not enough that it's standard practice to resample and it certainly may be a codec/wrapper over sample-rate issue, but I'm bringing it up as it may be related here. Force a 48 so likely to play audio in most video system scenarios at a sacrifice of audio bit perfection. Video not a concern for Airport Express so no 48 force there. Who knows the motivation, but common video scenarios tend to be doing a lot more up/down-sampling than most audio scenarios. Or that's my theory. 

 

On the Apple TV overall front, gave as a birthday present and with weekends firmware update including iTunes Radio, it seems a great device for a retired couple. Not knocking Pandora/Roku/GoogleTV/Squeezebox/Audioengine D2/etc. as there are several ways to do similar, but for them with an iPad and iPhone already in the house (so some controlling the Apple TV from iOS and some beaming from iOS), it's kinda an amazing thing to witness the speed they ramped up to the device. From Netflix to YouTube to recent trip and their lovely granddaughter photos as screensavers to the Frank Sinatra and Eva Cassidy/Diana Krall iTunes Radio stations, the house came alive. 

[Bigguy]

The Apple TV update for ITunes Radio was pulled because it was bricking the ATV's.  If you got bricked, you hook it to your puter and backdate it through iTunes.  Nice job Apple!

[Grahame]

Similar to the time they posted an ATV update that would only take if you updated over WiFi. Over wired Ethernet, not so much. Nice QA Apple. Not.

[Absorbine_Sr]

ATV update has been reposted. Let me know how it works for you guys and then I'll update mine.

 

Update: I installed the new ATV update last night with no issues.

Edited September 25, 2013 by Absorbine_Sr