The Monkey Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I would like to rip my parents' CD collection and "share" mine with them. They already have a multi-room setup, so I wouldn't need to put wireless speakers, etc. all over. Unfortunately, it's a B&O setup and you know how friendly they are with non-B&O gear. Regardless, I figured out a way that I can hang a network audio player off the B&O system and make it work. But here's the thing, I want to get my parents something like a Sonos or Duet (or anything else people can recommend) and set it up such that they don't have to use the computer. Can this be achieved via NAS, so that the Sonos or Duet or similar would just talk to the NAS and we could eliminate the computer from the equation? My parents fuck up computers all the time, so it's pretty much out of the question unless MAYBE I got them a cheap netbook, but I would prefer not to. Basically looking for digitial audio server for (nice and much-loved) dummies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 old style 160gb appletv, load it at your house, then install it at theirs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Dan, How do they then access the music? They'd need a monitor or TV, right? And a remote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 iphone/ipod touch as a controller, or hook it to the tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 and therein lies the rub. No TV in the area(s) where most of the listening would be done, and they don't have iphones or itouches. But I hear what you're saying. An AppleTV, maybe with a small monitor and maybe I convince my dad to get an iPod touch. Still, sounds like it's getting a little complicated. Is the Duet/Sonos stuff not suited to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I dunno, I just know that once it's in place, even my 4 yr old can make it work. And with the itouch, you don't need the monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I dunno, I just know that once it's in place, even my 4 yr old can make it work. And with the itouch, you don't need the monitor. You haven't met my parents. They must have some sort of EMF properties. Place a computer (or computer-like) device within 3 feet of them and they will somehow fuck it up. EDIT: Regardless, I am going to price out your suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 You could pay for hardware and consulting services in runrig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I know that Squeezebox server (or whatever it is called now) can be installed directly on some NAS, meaning you won't need another computer (NAS is a computer, after all) for Squeezebox chain to work. I don't know the details of how to go about this, though (i.e., I'm absolutely no fucking help). I personally like Dan's idea the best, especially considering how flakey Squeezebox can be with music library. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) Good point re the library Marc Haj, I've never liked that aspect of Squeezebox. Edited September 7, 2010 by The Monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Is the new AppleTV worth consideration here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I don't think so, as you'd still need a separate computer to stream from, since the new one doesn't have accessible storage space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Ah, ok. Post edited above to give proper thanks...I saw Marc's username at the bottom of the page and got confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkam Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) check out some of the netgear ReadyNAS devices, you can install a version of the slimserver (squeezebox server software) directly on some of them, so there'd be no need for a pc other than initial setup. Edited September 7, 2010 by tkam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I didn't even notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 check out some of the netgear ReadyNAS devices, you can install a version of the slimserver (squeezebox server software) directly on some of them, so there'd be no need for a other than initial setup. Thanks Todd. What do you think about the older version AppleTV idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Todd hates apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Dan, the more I look at it, the more I like your idea. It also helps me in my effort to make my parents all Apple. A few more questions: - I assume I can hang additional drives off the Apple TV to expand storage, is that correct? - Does the new AppleTV allow you to attach a hard drive for music storage? - What are the biggest drawbacks to the AppleTV approach, if any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkam Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 you can't use the new appletv, it's made for streaming so no you can't connect an external hd to it. you'd have to get the older appletv. or go with my readynas idea, there are iphone/itouch apps available for controlling squeezeboxes as well if that is partly what sold you on the appletv idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Dan, the more I look at it, the more I like your idea. It also helps me in my effort to make my parents all Apple. A few more questions: - I assume I can hang additional drives off the Apple TV to expand storage, is that correct?Nope - Does the new AppleTV allow you to attach a hard drive for music storage?Nope - What are the biggest drawbacks to the AppleTV approach, if any? That it's limited to 160gb per appletv, unless you hack it, that it's limited to apple supported formats, and that it's apple. You COULD use the new appletv in combination with a mac mini or imac stashed somewhere as a server. Then you can just stash that in a closet somewhere, and your parents wouldn't have to know they have a computer as part of the solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinp6301 Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Maybe an ipod classic + that wadia thing if you're looking for digital outs or that and a dac if they need analog outs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 ipod classic + wadia thing only adds cost to the appletv solution , isn't better in any other way, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 The 160GB limit may be a problem. Dammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinp6301 Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 How about the squeezebox touch + external hard drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 ok, mac mini server, new apple tv. But really, just rip to alac 256, and you can fit a fuckload in 160gb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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