mypasswordis Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I was curious but had to start reading the review with my eyes rolled, which made it difficult to continue. First off I have to admit: I’m becoming a huge fan of headphone amps. Really, posting that on a headphone forum? No way. The seller describes the design of the M-Stage as being a fully discrete Pure Class A design. It appears that the left and right channels share the same power supply and then things break down to a dual mono design from there, although of course they share the same PCB. It uses high quality parts such as Nichicon KG capacitors, a smooth ALPS potentiometer, a Burr/Brown OPA2134, etc.I stopped reading after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Doug Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 You should have a listen to my NOS DAC - it uses 8x oversampling I was curious but had to start reading the review with my eyes rolled, which made it difficult to continue. Really, posting that on a headphone forum? No way. I stopped reading after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Justin: ha! Didn't you know a cmoy breaks down into dual mono at the output jack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Justin: ha! Didn't you know a cmoy breaks down into dual mono at the output jack? Don't forget that it's fully discrete class A despite using an opamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebby Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Didn't notice that one....funny. Oh yea, isn't every amp a cmoy "essentially"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Didn't notice that one....funny. Oh yea, isn't every amp a cmoy "essentially"? Win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerius Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Not to derail the thread, but what is your guy's opinion on the Matrix M-Stage (another discrete amp). Matrix M-Stage amp review: simple, cheap, and excellent. - Head-Fi.org Community I know I shouldn't trust head fi but this was a convincing review. Seems like it could be an alternative and I haven;t read about noise/heat issues for it either. Fishy. An amp which allegedly runs in class A but doesn't even get warm, yeah. Either it's a very low powered amp or it's not class A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebby Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 specs from the ebay listing I saw for a ver 2 Matrix M-Stage: Frequency Response: 10 Hz (-0.3dB) ~ 35kHz (-1dB) Signal to Noise Ratio: >95dB (0dB) Distortion: <0.001% (6 mW/300 Ohms) Input Impedance: 47 kOhms Output Impedance: Line-out 60 Ohms, Phone-out 5 Ohms Output Power: 200 mW/300 Ohms, 400 mW/60 Ohms Power Support: AC 220-240V/100-120V (Please specify) Front Panel Color: Black/Silver (Please specify) Weight: 2 kg Device Dimension: 280 x 110 x 42mm Seriously though, a 15 page review for a $250 amp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahrose Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Seriously though, a 15 page review for a $250 amp? I skipped all his technical mumbo jumbo and went straight to his amp comparisons...which as I said, were pretty informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 No they weren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Neither informative nor accurate, but who the fuck cares on HF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 That's actually a pretty good tag line for HF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 I thought so, but then again I just got back from the hotel bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 ok, so from the reaction, I am going to assume that the M-Stage is not viable competitor to Schitt amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Why would you assume that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDen Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 ok, so from the reaction, I am going to assume that the M-Stage is not viable competitor to Schitt amps. I think what you should do is ignore that review you pasted and try to find other information about the amp or another review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessingx Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 How to make good headphones sound great | The Audiophiliac - CNET News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 How to make good headphones sound great | The Audiophiliac - CNET News Congrats to the Schiit boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 What a Schiitty review! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yikes Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Why do I suspect that S.G.'s review on CNET is just slightly hyperbolic. I have a sneaking suspicion that I'm not getting the measure of my HE-5LE headphones with any of my amplifiers and S.G.'s review of the Asgard has me reaching for the CC hoping that the Asgard might be a magic match for a very low price. As Heinlein used to say TANSTAAFL, now $249 isn't free but it's certainly dirt cheap by high End standards. Is 15 days enough time? and I hate returning anything. I'm going to wait. It's summer and I use my Headphones even less during the Summer so I think I'll let the dust settle a little before I bite on the Asgard hook; besides I've been selected as a Beta tester for the new PS Audio Network Bridge so that should keep me busy for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebby Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 15 days is enough, just make sure to turn it on and let it burn in for a while in a ventilated area, as the initial smell of electronics it gives off is a bit strong imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullguise Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I've liked some of SG's writing in the past. He also worked at Chesky as a producer IIRC.....some decent resume material IMO. So I'm happy for Schiit (or is that "as" Schiit?) to hear he likes this and that a mainstremer like CNET gives them some good marketing. But there is probably a bit of hyperbole involved. Part of it is likely finding a nice amp like this at such a low price; it causes the "wow" factor to go haywire.... I'm still enjoying mine, but still also using my other amps more. The glare I heard at about 30-40 hours HAS seemed to lessen somewhat (I don't think it's my ears adjusting to it, as I am using my Stax and Millett during this time as well). Still there, but a slight bit less..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atothex Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Homeboy lists Phiaton among his favorite headphones. I just found that amusing. Maybe I should check em out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yikes Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Snob. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atothex Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Hey, they might be awesome for all I know. Seriously, I haven't read much of anything about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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