s_r Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Was answered I believe Kerry also mentioned to use AC325 for 400V output and AC360 for 450V output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) I went ahead and built the new PS design to make sure it's stable and performs... Here's a picture of the supply set to 400V (it's just the bottom half of the PCB). I've used a few different values, but that shouldn't matter. I'm seeing about 5mV (RMS) of random noise. Could probably get that down a bit. Some of that is coming from my apartment. Edited July 6, 2015 by Kerry 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopants Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 wow Kerry your hand work is excellent, sell your proto work to fund more projects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted July 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 kerry, you need a screen room, all copper you know you want one. do the entire apartment and wear an aluminum hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 I really do want one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted July 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) kerry changed a few values from the original schematic, changing the labels on the boards now http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/goldenreferencehvsic.pdf R1 to 4.7k (probably a good idea) D1 12V R6 to 50k (also probably a good idea) C7 down to 5pf (and yes it needs to be there) 3.9 ohms for R11 if you want to raise the current limit Edited July 6, 2015 by kevin gilmore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopants Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) powered up my kgsshv, one board is fine while the other has the outputs at +vcc. Where should I start looking? One other thing is that the +15V on this board powers up slower than the other, will this affect the output DC? edit: that does seem to the be problem, now it works fine but drifts around quite a bit without the servo. I started listening though so maybe I'll fix this in half a year I haven't listened to a kgsshv in a while, the soundstage is very wide compared to other amplifiers in the lineup. can also kind of see how more bass a la carbon might be welcome Edited July 7, 2015 by nopants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Change the regulator? That shouldn't happen at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopants Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 it was because I used an excessively long wire to daisy chain 15v from board to board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Ahh that is not the best idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorenb Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) Ordered some of the Carbon boards from Birgir.Its without cascoded CSS. Cut those board to a smaller size. Besides from a PZTA42 that somehow had its own way and apparantly caused a Vishay to go south the amp was up and running without too much hassle. The Carbon definetly runs hot. The heatsink is ,45K/W - seems ok The plan is to have the amp on one side and the PSU mounted likewise on the opposit side in a Dissipante 2U/300mm wide. Looking forward to get the PCBs from MWL168 GB Big thanks to Kevin & Spritzer. Edited July 13, 2015 by sorenb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gepardcv Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Nice! What do you think of the sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Nice Soren! How do you get in there if you need to replace a transistor on that heatsink?? Looks quite diffucult.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorenb Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 @Gepardcv: you probably won't be disappointed @Insanity: Depends on how you see it; a bit solder wick and some flux and off it goes ... not a big deal ...had smoke from the Vishay and had to replace that and the 42 that had its own way for some reason ...anyways its only the C2M that is going to be mounted like that ... the 10m90 will get company from a DN2540 ...just havn't figured out how to do it just yet ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gepardcv Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I finished a mini-stereo KGSSHV build yesterday. It sounds pretty nice! One problem: when I turn it off with headphones plugged in, there is a pretty loud crackle in the headphones. Not deafening loud, but disconcerting, especially since my KGST doesn't do this. There is no noise on power on. Any idea what might cause this power-down problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 It's a common issue with the Hv and nothing to worry about. You can put in larger PSU caps on the LV side which makes this go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorenb Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 It's a common issue with the Hv and nothing to worry about. You can put in larger PSU caps on the LV side which makes this go away. Any idea why this power down noise doesn't happen on the ixys version of the KGSSHV onboard then? The psu is the same i assume Sent from my yPat using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 It has larger PSU caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted July 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Kerry is a bit nervous that the v3 servo for the carbon may not work, so I did a v4 board which has both servo's on it, use one or the other. Much safer for the group buy I think. http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvcarbonv4.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeP Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 So I take it that mean there is no need for the v2 amp board option in the group buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted July 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 exactly, and a few parts removed http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvcarbonv5.jpg this guarantees that its gonna work, but its gonna work anyway! reduces the GB price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gepardcv Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 When you say use one or the other, you mean (1) zero the balance and offset with both servo jumpers pulled, and then (2) try putting back either of the jumpers, but not both, and see what happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted July 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvcarbonproductionv5.pdf so for original servo, adjust the amplifier for an output voltage around zero then put the jumper in for servo v1. for the new servo, adjust the amplifier for an output voltage around +20v then put the jumper in for servo v2 never put both jumpers in at the same time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguy Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) I've been putting together a BOM for the Carbon but I'm not finding any 175K resistors that are in stock over at Mouser or Digikey. Does anyone know of other sources? There's 174K but will that work? Edited July 19, 2015 by chiguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted July 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 174k will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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