Laowei Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 What would be the VA rating needed, to spec the transformer to power a Carbon?
JoaMat Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) / Edited November 13, 2015 by JoaMat
kevin gilmore Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) a lot of people don't lift the resistors slightly off the boards, and cause trouble. i can certainly put the ground plane back in if people want it, but the design is very tight and short, so probably no reason to. here is what the ground plane would look like with 30th clearance, there is no way to do it on the bottom. http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/kgsshvcarbonv2.pdf takes 5 seconds to put it back on the board if people want it. no way to get to the ground pin on the ground plane for the hv power supply connector Edited June 29, 2015 by kevin gilmore
nopants Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 is that a warning for all resistors or just prp
GeorgeP Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 Pretty sure prp wasn't alone in leaking through its insulation.
chiguy Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 that is unnecessary but i could probably do it. the result would be that those parts would get hotter. I'm fine with a couple of small sinks if it's better overall.
kevin gilmore Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Posted June 29, 2015 its one small sink that holds both of them. http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/fatright.jpg
spritzer Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 That sink isn't needed either. I just put it in there in case I'd want to drive a small heater supply or something like that off that supply.
mwl168 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 That sink isn't needed either. I just put it in there in case I'd want to drive a small heater supply or something like that off that supply. that's a great idea!
s_r Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 Is there much benefit in going with 680uF caps over 470uF ones in the PSU? The kemet 680uF ones are too tall to fit in a 2U case. Not sure if I want to go with the shorter caps or just cut holes in the top cover.
insanity Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 Good point s_r. I didn't not yet realize that the 680uf are actually 80mm tall. The 470uf are "only" 60mm.
Laowei Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 now to find some r-core transformers.Kevin, have you seen this company: http://jamestransformer.com/en/transformer/index.htmlThey have built a pretty good reputation with their power and output EI-core transformers for DIY tube amps. They also list building custom R-cores to order. A R-100 core size would be a physically perfect fit for a Carbon. Could add electrostatic shield,.... whatever we want.There are order sheets on that site that take in all the technical specs. desired and email to them for a quote. I'm not the one to be spec'ing the transformer, maybe someone with more experience could.Possibly a GB could be arranged.I frequently travel to Shenzhen China for business (I'm there right now), and could take a day trip to their office/factory in Foshon to check them out if needed.
palchiu Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 I found this chassis from taobao http://tw.taobao.com/item/7504213469.htm?spm=a1z3o.7406521.101.441.OPhvr3&abtest=_AB-LR492-LR501-LR517-PR492-PR501-PV517_1271 Outside 320(W)*120(H)*311(D)mm Inside 220*113*300mm Heatsink 300*50*115 Should be nice to combine with KGSSHV-Carbon also big trafos. Another narrow version (260 wide/160 inside) http://tw.taobao.com/item/7504376983.htm?spm=a1z3o.7406521.101.22.IX06iP&abtest=_AB-LR492-LR501-LR517-PR492-PR501-PV517_1271 What's spec of transformers should make for KGSSHV-Carbon?
Dave R Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 I found this chassis from taobao http://tw.taobao.com/item/7504213469.htm?spm=a1z3o.7406521.101.441.OPhvr3&abtest=_AB-LR492-LR501-LR517-PR492-PR501-PV517_1271 Outside 320(W)*120(H)*311(D)mm Inside 220*113*300mm Heatsink 300*50*115 Should be nice to combine with KGSSHV-Carbon also big trafos. Another narrow version (260 wide/160 inside) http://tw.taobao.com/item/7504376983.htm?spm=a1z3o.7406521.101.22.IX06iP&abtest=_AB-LR492-LR501-LR517-PR492-PR501-PV517_1271 What's spec of transformers should make for KGSSHV-Carbon? I wonder if Birgir has any plans building KGSSHV Carbon's using the type of chassis in the photo. IMO it looks very nice.
nopants Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 any builder can implement it that way it's just a matter of what fits
kevin gilmore Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) i have finally come up with a better servo, joamat and kerry had some really good ideas, but referencing the minus rail causes issues, and then there is the overhead voltage of the system. so here is something that i think is better because the reference is ground. http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/newservo.pdf the circlotron needs a bigger chassis than that. and its probably too big for the carbon, but sure why not. going to look into transformers very soon. Edited June 30, 2015 by kevin gilmore
nopants Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 still have 2x kgsshv sumr transformers, should do good substitute duty. maybe I need to dual mono
JoaMat Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Nice servo. Edited November 11, 2015 by JoaMat
kevin gilmore Posted June 30, 2015 Author Report Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) version 3 board ready for testing slightly updated servo schematic the taller caps are really useable in 3U boxes Edited June 30, 2015 by kevin gilmore
nopants Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 shouldn't we fork the kgsshv carbon from the kgsshv thread
Kerry Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 i have finally come up with a better servo, joamat and kerry had some really good ideas, but referencing the minus rail causes issues, and then there is the overhead voltage of the system. so here is something that i think is better because the reference is ground. http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/newservo.pdf the circlotron needs a bigger chassis than that. and its probably too big for the carbon, but sure why not. going to look into transformers very soon. Nice I like the idea of decoupling.
spritzer Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 I wonder if Birgir has any plans building KGSSHV Carbon's using the type of chassis in the photo. IMO it looks very nice. Those boxes aren't all that great so I won't be touching them again. I'll build one mini Carbon into the KGSSHV mini chassis just to test it but after that it will be all custom.
nopants Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 alright fuck it I'm going to build the carbon with the PSU I was saving for a BH original, I can't take it anymore maybe the siCarbon is worth using the 1968s on as well? or an el34 ccs a la megatron....
spritzer Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 I will do one with the T2 CCS at some point as I'll do a solid state T2. Also SiC BHSE... Who needs tubes now...
nopants Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 isn't the carbon already technically a SiC BHSE, 10m90s and everything? I'm just thinking out loud...a "reverse hybrid" amplifier just sounds pretty cool if one is willing to appropriate the voltage necessary for the tube CCS...maybe even a hybrid mu/beta follower oh man T2 CCS seems pretty manageable if you only need to drop in those 8(?) 3675s. Easy enough to P2P, but I guess infinitely more of a pain in the ass compared to the boards as they are now.
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