El_Doug Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) Then you have to use the angle brackets and build it T2 style. But then you can't get it all in one standard box. I'm open to suggestions. define standard? I'm going to be using angle brackets, and have plenty room given the boards are 4 inches across edit: oops, you were emphasizing the word "one" - yeah, it definitely requires two boxes Edited June 29, 2011 by El_Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I feel a challenge coming on, cram a KGSSHV into a single chassis.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MASantos Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Does the increased voltage and biasing from using the side mounted sinks version substantially improves the SQ or is it more subtle? I'm leaning towards the on-board sinks version, as the build would become much much easier to do, but I can definitely do the heat-sink drilling and tapping if this yields substantial improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) Does the increased voltage and biasing from using the side mounted sinks version substantially improves the SQ or is it more subtle? Likely this is going to be very subjective. I'm not sure we have even heard comparisons between the KGSSHV and KGSS in audio-fool terms yet. The other question would be device longevity and how much the on-board version pushes the envelope in terms of die temperature. Isolated packages have a higher thermal resistance than their non-isolated counterparts, so if someone has build this without using the isolated parts, they should expect (slightly?) higher die temperatures with this version, depending how the non isolated parts were mounted. Edited June 29, 2011 by luvdunhill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankCooter Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I feel a challenge coming on, cram a KGSSHV into a single chassis.... This is exactly what I intend to do. A project like this deserves an appropriate presentation. I'm thinking something like a souped-up version of a '60's style Fisher receiver chassis and cabinet. Lots of wood and brass. Shouldn't be any problem with the on-board heat sink version .Make it whatever size is required. Once you get into it, chassis work can be as fun and creative as the electronics. Definitely don't want something that will be mistaken for a generic P.C. out of "Best Buy". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Doug Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 I feel a challenge coming on, cram a KGSSHV into a single chassis.... with the side-mount boards, this can all fit into a single 3U pessante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujamerstand Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Could somebody verify the lead spacing for the .22uf/1000V cap for me? It looks like 27.5mm but I am not sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livewire Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 See post #954 for the provisional BOM that KG posted. He references Mouser p/n: 5989-1KV0.22-F The datasheet lists 22.5mm for the lead spacing on this part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujamerstand Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) Well, I'm looking at the power supply image, and assuming the lead spacing for the .1uF cap is 27.5mm and 22.5mm, the .22uF cap looks like it is setup for a 27.5mm lead spacing part than a 22.5mm part... Just want to make sure, because TAW electronics does not have 22.5mm wima cap in stock. Edited July 19, 2011 by ujamerstand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livewire Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I saw that too. I was just going on what KG specified on the BOM. Maybe a mistake lurks here on the gerbers? (or the BOM?) Btw, the Mouser spec'd .22 cap is a CD, not WIMA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujamerstand Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Yeah, I just wanted to use a wima cap there. If I have my computer here then I can just check the board for the distance, but I don't have he tools while I'm traveling... Need the measurement so I can make the TAW order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Knight Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) See post #954 for the provisional BOM that KG posted. He references Mouser p/n: 5989-1KV0.22-F The datasheet lists 22.5mm for the lead spacing on this part. Both the 0.1 and 0.22 are indeed 22.5mm, measured directly on my sample board. Edited July 20, 2011 by Lil Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Is anyone doing a board run for the PS and side mount amp boards? Sorry if it was mentioned earlier but I didn't notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livewire Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Here. I cant believe you missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Doug Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) Is anyone doing a board run for the PS and side mount amp boards? Sorry if it was mentioned earlier but I didn't notice it. if you missed out, I ordered an extra set that I almost assuredly won't be using (i only got it in case I somehow managed to break the first board). it's yours Edited July 20, 2011 by El_Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujamerstand Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) II'm sure lil'knight has extra boards, if not I have a spare set you could take. Edit: you could take both our sets if you need it. Edited July 20, 2011 by ujamerstand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Lil'knight took care of me Thanks for the offers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currawong Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) I found these new heatsinks on Mouser which are almost identical to the Aavid ones listed in the BOM: 588-FA-T220-64E The pin size is 0.091" compared to 0.093 for the Aavid and the other measurements are almost the same. Also, I hate asking for favours, but a couple of the components are "restricted availability" and I can't order them online from Mouser: DSEP12-12A (1200V Rectifier) x32 IXCP10M90S x12 If someone could help me out with these (the listed figure is enough for 4 amps) I'd be very grateful. Edit: My BOM and board info was out of date and I didn't know about Future Electronics. Edited July 20, 2011 by Currawong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Knight Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 511-STTH1512W The 10m90s is also available at Future Electronics. Did you check the BOM I posted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Doug Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 since I do not fully (read: at all) understand how the amp works, can anyone explain the specs required for the 5pf cap? 200v are impossible to come by anywhere on the web, so far as i can tell. better yet, a link to an in-stock alternative would be fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currawong Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I missed that in your sig, thanks. I was running off of KG's BOM. I'll use yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Knight Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) This should work just fine too: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay-Cera-Mite/561R10TCCV47/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMukHu%252bjC5l7YQBS4TczbHi4kc9HwDXYAjE%3d Edited July 20, 2011 by Lil Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livewire Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 since I do not fully (read: at all) understand how the amp works, can anyone explain the specs required for the 5pf cap? 200v are impossible to come by anywhere on the web, so far as i can tell. better yet, a link to an in-stock alternative would be fantastic The 5pf caps can be spec'd for 1KV and work fine. They're listed in a recent KGSSHV BOM and are currently in stock. Mouser p/n is: 75-561R10TCCV50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livewire Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 This should work just fine too: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay-Cera-Mite/561R10TCCV47/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMukHu%252bjC5l7YQBS4TczbHi4kc9HwDXYAjE%3d Yes, that will work also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 not sure where the 5pf at 200 volts came from, but that is clearly wrong. needs to be 1kv cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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