jvlgato Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Maybe it has the special and magical white substance painted on it which makes it so good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsieurguzel Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 It's got an upgraded power source running at a constant 60Hz and has enough power to drive anything with great authority! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahrose Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Pads alone made huge changes in most Yamaha orthos when I was tweaking them. So just the pad change could be responsible for the difference. Well Audez'e is now saying they've changed the driver as well as the pads. New ones are slightly brighter with better imaging and tighter bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhythmdevils Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Oh wow, new diaphragm. I'm tempted to try them out again, but I doubt it would fix my problem with them. I liked the treble as it was. Good on Audeze though to keep working on them. The new headband looks comfy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhjazz Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) For those who hear the reverb, try one thing with EQ: bump up 100Hz 3db with a low Q, shelf up treble past 1.5KHz 3db, and notch down 1Khz -3db with a high Q curve. Voila - the reverb goes away. That shouldn't even remotely be necessary. Well Audez'e is now saying they've changed the driver as well as the pads. New ones are slightly brighter with better imaging and tighter bass. Sneaky. Interesting. Wonder why they just let this info out. I like it, though. Makes me want a pair "more today than yesterday." Edited July 4, 2011 by bhjazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyll Hertsens Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Well Audez'e is now saying they've changed the driver as well as the pads. New ones are slightly brighter with better imaging and tighter bass. Got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3cT Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Here you go: http://www.audeze.com/driver-update-and-leather-headband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyll Hertsens Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Well, fuck me. I talked to those guys and they flat out told me there was no changes, just the pads. Glad I haven't written the review yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Yeah, that seems very weak, Tyll. I don't like surreptitious changes, especially if they claimed otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recstar24 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Time to bitch in a review srajan style!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyll Hertsens Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Yeah, that seems very weak, Tyll. I don't like surreptitious changes, especially if they claimed otherwise. Between the LCD-2 changes and the Beyer Tesla line changes I think the measurements are having their impact. Makers just can't do stuff without it being seen. That's cool. Gonna be a tussle for a while though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 A chap over at Head-Fi was nice enough to overlay the Audeze-provided plots of his two sets, pre- and post-driver change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I'm not sure I like this approach to headphones design and built: With Rev.2 we are addressing concerns of many customers who feel that original LCD2 has darker high frequency signature than many top of the line headphones. For the frequency response plot I'd say they haven't increased the treble response but reduced the mid-upper bass output. So I wouldn't expect the resonance in the treble to be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyll Hertsens Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I'm not sure I like this approach to headphones design and built: Tap dancing isn't easy to do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefectiveAudioComponent Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) I like the look of that leather headband. But I like my treble as it is- Edited July 4, 2011 by DefectiveAudioComponent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Tap dancing isn't easy to do well. I know, but a designer should know he/she cannot please everyone, so must stick to his own principles, not to the "complains" of some customers who seem to miss what other headphones do. If you like other phones, buy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Tyll looking forward to the new review. I might pick up the rev2 at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsieurguzel Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Hmmm....the new version sounds interesting. I had the very first iteration and sold it a while back but do miss some aspects of it quite a lot. It's nice they fixed a lot of kinks with the headphones after the past year....goes to show you need to wait a good year for kinks to get worked out. I should probably have done the same with the SR-009s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currawong Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Despite the 009s being here now, I'm still liking the LCD-2s for pop and the like where impact is more important than delicacy. The 009s can be a bit too airy and delicate in their presentation with some types of music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3cT Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Which LCD2 version you have again, Amos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currawong Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Post cord-entry-angle change and pre-new cable and thicker pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaos974 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Between the LCD-2 changes and the Beyer Tesla line changes I think the measurements are having their impact. Makers just can't do stuff without it being seen. That's cool. Gonna be a tussle for a while though. If my memory's good you did the measures before June, which is before the driver update date (mid June), maybe the version you have just has new pads but not the new drivers. I'd email Audeze to confirm that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3cT Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Post cord-entry-angle change and pre-new cable and thicker pads. We should have the same version then. Anyway, I'm still not sure about a brighter LCD2 although admittedly a slightly more air to its treble is more than welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spychedelic Whale Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I had one and I liked it for what it was, a dark headphone, so I'm not sure I would like it to be brighter but I'm a suspect in this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsieurguzel Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 For me the treble wasn't toooo much of an issue, other than when playing Bluegrass and such. However, what bugged me more about them was the lack of soundstage and layering of instruments. The headphone felt quite claustrophobic and not that great recreating a sense of space in live performances. The tonality was pretty spot on though...which is what counts the most in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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