Emooze Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Well, I was hoping that the WA6SE would be decent enough, but if not then I also have a power amp in reserve. IIRC didn't they improve the efficiency for the production version though? They sounded damn fine out of a WA6 (not sure if it was the SE or not) at CanJam, I wouldn't worry about the power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solude Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 The weight thing only lasted a day or two for me. Swapping out the speaker cable for a headphone one dropped the weight too. Forget where they ran a myth thing, but those neck bands are pure illusion, no neck length change which makes sense since the spine isn't known for it ability to do rubber man thing. Personally still loving my LCD-2/B22 combo. Actually got the MkII of the DA220 this week expecting minor changed if any and was surprised that despite only changing the digital filter it sounds very different. Not necessarily better, but different for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypasswordis Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Neck ring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Interesting read, thanks for mentioning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmK Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Just placed my order from the "it's your turn" notice I got from Audeze, can't wait to try them out. I'll be using them with a Neko D100 and Gilmore Lite w/DPS. I'll be using a GLite as well unless I can manage to swing an upgrade. Any impressions would be great! Has anyone been able to compare these to the HP1000s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3cT Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I can provide impressions with the Gilmore Lite once I've received mine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessingx Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Related: As opposed the many over on the other site, I think the GS-1 performs better with the LCD-2 than most tubes. Certain better than anything I've tried in the Extreme Platinum (unless you only care about midrange). Would like to compare the Eddie Current Hybrid someday. Bet the Glite will do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDen Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 From what my friend has told me the lcd-2 with the glite/dps does very well. It does however look like it might benefit a bit from a more "powerful" amp, the glite does however do a good job. I think emelius and asr have tried it with a glite too. I also can't wait to try them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellylh Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I have been mostly using mine with the GS-1 and I agree that it is a good combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmK Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Thanks a lot! I really wish I could grab a GS-1 but the money won't be there for a little while. I might pick up the Gilmore X2 when it comes out though. It looks very promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellylh Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I want, I mean need, a Gilmore X2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aura Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 I might pick up the Gilmore X2 when it comes out though. It looks very promising. Same. I purposely haven't bought anything (well can't really because i don't have money) in anticipation of X2 w/ async DAC. It'll be my graduation present to myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxvla Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Got my HE-6 tonight and am quite impressed. Looking forward to comparing to the LCD-2 at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oqvist Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Related: As opposed the many over on the other site, I think the GS-1 performs better with the LCD-2 than most tubes. Certain better than anything I've tried in the Extreme Platinum (unless you only care about midrange). Would like to compare the Eddie Current Hybrid someday. Bet the Glite will do well. I also have had greater success with solid state then tubes for the LCD-2. Goldpoint Headphone Pro being my pick but it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessingx Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Audeze headphones: Redefining the state of the art? | The Audiophiliac - CNET News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currawong Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I'm thinking I might stop here with the LCD-2s -- I've stopped caring about building a Stax rig and I don't want to ruin it with the HE-6. If I get any more gear it will be a good power amp and those Harbeth Monitors I've had my eye on for quite some time. Maybe if I see K1000s for a good price somewhere in the future, I will try them, but I am pretty sure I'm done with gear. DIY on the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefectiveAudioComponent Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I am stopping for now with the LCD-2 as well. After some months of listening, they pass the enjoyable listen test. Nothing appears dramatically missing / wrong / annoying with the LCD-2. I sure don't want anything less enjoyable than this sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadphoneAddict Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I still feel the LCD-2 really benefit from a re-cable, and at RMAF I just didn't enjoy them as much stock as when I tried the ALO 8-wire or Silver Dragon cable, regardless of source and amp. The source and amp did make a bigger difference, but even with the best source and amp they only seemed truly transparent and disappeared with the upgraded cable as the final tweak. At that point the transparency was closer to my O2 Mk1 which have a similar sound signature and soundstage. I look forward to reading that review when I get home this afternoon. But I look forward more to getting my Silver Dragon cable and rolling tubes in my ZDT to make them a better match. I have a brighter Telefunken smooth plate 12AX7 that I'd like to try soon. They did a great job in the old GES with the treble in the O2 Mk1, but I'm being too OCD about splitting up a matched quad to use just one with the ZDT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurubhai Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 The stock cable of LCD-2 is a POS. My $15 DIY cable betters it both in terms of SQ & ergonomics. My only real complaint from LCD-2 though , and this too was easily fixable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 At CJ I definitely preferred the stock cable to the ridiculously oversized Jena wire ALO junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faust3d Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Cables make relatively little difference with ortho headphones. Orthos present an essentially resistive load to the amp. That is, this type of headphone is nearly pure resistance, able to be driven properly by any good amp with enough power, and unaffected by the varying stray inductance and capacitance of exotic overpriced cables. There is no feedback from orthos going back to the amp as well, since there is no magnet with voice coil, just food for thought. The way I see it "great improvement" with cable change is purely change in the perception. I am yet to hear a difference when re-cabling orthos, unless the original cable was pure crap with rusted contacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefectiveAudioComponent Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 The stock cable is a bit clumsy and heavy. That's my only complaint with it. (And it's easy to change.... it's just not annoying enough at the moment....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faust3d Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 The stock cable is a bit clumsy and heavy. That's my only complaint with it. (And it's easy to change.... it's just not annoying enough at the moment....) That is it. I would like it to be more flexible and to be less in the way, but it's not like AOL cable is ergonomically better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 There is no feedback from orthos going back to the amp as well, since there is no magnet with voice coil...I thought I understood Orthos, but I guess I'm wrong if I understand this statement correctly. I thought it was similar to a dynamic headphone, only instead of a voice coil, the diaphragm was between two layers of magnets (I.E. orthogonally from the traditional dynamic driver). For example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefectiveAudioComponent Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 I thought I understood Orthos, but I guess I'm wrong if I understand this statement correctly. I thought it was similar to a dynamic headphone, only instead of a voice coil, the diaphragm was between two layers of magnets (I.E. orthogonally from the traditional dynamic driver). For example. That's right. It just lies there in between the magnets and floats back and forth in the magnetic field as the current goes through the circuit on the diaphragm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypasswordis Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Yup, the diaphragm is typically a piece of plastic with a "voice coil" etched on, sandwiched between two magnets with lots of holes in them. The static magnetic field acts against the magnetic field caused by changes in current in the diaphragm's "voice coil". The voice coil in dynamic drivers attaches the dome to the back magnet and moves the dome due to static magnetic field of magnet and changes in current in the voice coil. And since the voice coil is basically an inductor you've got rising impedance with respect to frequency. And since the voice coil is also like a spring, you've got a major amplitude deviation in impedance at the resonant frequency, which aren't in orthos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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