wrecked_porsche Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 what's the bass impact like on the O2 with an srm-717? Not something I'd worry about. I see from one of your previous posts that you've tried the DT880? If you find that the DT880 has enough bass, then don't sweat it, you'd probably find the O2 bass from the 717 more than enuf too. I've tried the DT880 in the past, found the bass to be sufficient. Owned the O2mk1 and 717 in the past, bass was DEFINITELY NOT an issue. O2 is "1 million" times better. ----------------~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~-------------------- *can we make this into a smiley please?* ----> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigster Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Most of the bass-heads I know was pretty impressed with the kind of bass that the O2 was outputting. Changed the general impressions of electrostats for those who hadn't had the chance to listen to one before. Got a Sigma Pro recently and liked its mid range but the bass seems a bit "muddy"? Not particularly punchy. Is that how it is or is mine the odd one out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I was never that impressed with the Sigma Pro, it always sounded a bit out of control and the bass suffered. The SR-Sigma and Sigma 404 can rock with the best of them though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigster Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I was never that impressed with the Sigma Pro, it always sounded a bit out of control and the bass suffered. The SR-Sigma and Sigma 404 can rock with the best of them though... Thanks Birgir for re-affirming my queries, thought I had gotten a "faulty" pair, nonetheless, I'm disappointed with the sound. Time to look for a cheap 404 or Lambda Sig to mutilate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetoole Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Uhm, it wouldnt be very useful to mutilate a Lambda Sig for drivers, as the Sigma Pro already has Lambda Sig drivers. You would want normal bias SR-Lambda drivers, though it seems like such a shame to take a SR-Lambda apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I much prefer the way of taking a crappy SR-404 with a SR-Sigma and turn them into two awesome headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Buchanan Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I was never that impressed with the Sigma Pro, it always sounded a bit out of control and the bass suffered. The SR-Sigma and Sigma 404 can rock with the best of them though... Never heard the Sigma Pro, but Birgir's opinion of the other two is correct. IMHO, the Sigma/404 is the best as it has the best treble response, and a slightly smoother and deeper bottom end. I think Naotake Hayashi was a very smart man to have invented these phones. He really had a good lateral view, and came up with a different way of creating the illusion of listening to speakers in a room. He apparently liked the Sigma best, but at that time, there was nothing else in that line apart from the Sigma Pro. Now we have the Sigma/404 option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Buchanan Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigster Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Oh, didn't know that Sigma Pros utilized Lambda Sig drivers. Thanks for the heads up before I do something doofus. The Sigma and Sigma Pro have the same enclosure structure don't they? So all I need do is get my hands on a pair of really cheap 404 to mutilate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Buchanan Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Apart from colour differences and quality of cable differences, yes - the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I even posted a how-to guide of sorts here on how to convert the Sigma's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigster Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I even posted a how-to guide of sorts here on how to convert the Sigma's... In this thread? Hmm... need to spend some time reading then. Thanks, really useful stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Should be but I couldn't find it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les_Garten Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I have a question about the SR-80s. Can you plug and run them off a 'Pro" bias amp? I'm looking for some "test" stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetoole Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yes, as they are electrets, the bias doesnt matter at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 They will work off any Stax jack since they don't need a bias supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigster Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Should be but I couldn't find it... Think I found it on page 48 of the thread but the pictures (I assume that there were pictures) unfortunately aren't there anymore. http://www.head-case.org/forums/headphones/785-headcase-stax-thread-48.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les_Garten Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yes, as they are electrets, the bias doesnt matter at all. They will work off any Stax jack since they don't need a bias supply. Thanx Guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Think I found it on page 48 of the thread but the pictures (I assume that there were pictures) unfortunately aren't there anymore. http://www.head-case.org/forums/headphones/785-headcase-stax-thread-48.html I'll see if I can't find the pics and upload them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigster Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'll see if I can't find the pics and upload them again. That'll be wonderful. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n3rdling Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 You could probably find 303s for cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I have a question about the SR-80s. Can you plug and run them off a 'Pro" bias amp? I'm looking for some "test" stats. I'd use the SR-003 for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 The SR-003 will tell you a lot if something goes wrong. Wrong bias voltages scream at you and it's great for picking up hum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les_Garten Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'd use the SR-003 for that. The SR-003 will tell you a lot if something goes wrong. Wrong bias voltages scream at you and it's great for picking up hum. Hmmm, didn't think or consider that. I was just going to pick up some 303's for testing, but that seems a lot of $$$ to tie up just to test. So them thought about some lower end older STAX. I want something to test listen with before plugging in O2s. I'll look over the 003s, thanx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randerson3024 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 What the fuck? Do I need one? If so, do I have to buy the 404's, which I already own and am not that crazy about? I have much better units. Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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