GPH Posted August 3, 2009 Report Posted August 3, 2009 It seems like I'll be getting back into the Stax game money-hole sometimes this week. I'm about to buy a Lambda Pro + SRD-7 Pro combo, and I have a few questions for you Stax-heads. First, I have heard the Signature, SR-404 and SR-202, I was wondering what can I expect from the Pro compared to his brothers? Other than that, do you have a suggestion for an affordable speaker amp that will be used only to power the Stax setup? Thanks!
manaox2 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 It seems like I'll be getting back into the Stax game money-hole sometimes this week. I'm about to buy a Lambda Pro + SRD-7 Pro combo, and I have a few questions for you Stax-heads. First, I have heard the Signature, SR-404 and SR-202, I was wondering what can I expect from the Pro compared to his brothers? Other than that, do you have a suggestion for an affordable speaker amp that will be used only to power the Stax setup? Thanks! I've done some comparisons on the Signature and Lambda norm with the pro on an SRM-T1. To me the Pro has a smooth sound with a somewhat sucked out mid-range. Its bass isn't as strong is the Lambda and is about as defined (maybe more) as the Lambda, but stronger and not as well-defined as the Signature's bass. Its not bright like the signature, not too dark, just laid back. It worked decently with electronic music, but not so great with vocals. Those were my thoughts on it before I sold it them about two months ago, I was fairly happy with it.
The Monkey Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 The bass out of the O2 and KGSS DX makes me want to kick anyone who says stats don't have bass right in the neck.
manaox2 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 The Lambdas have bass too. It can sound a little different, but those phones vibrate with bass, no doubt.
GPH Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 The bass out of the O2 and KGSS DX makes me want to kick anyone who says stats don't have bass right in the neck. QFT. If it's the same KGSS DX I used to have, the bass definition and quantity with the O2Mk1 is just incredible.
deepak Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 The bass out of the O2 and KGSS DX makes me want to kick anyone who says stats don't have bass right in the neck. Dinny where were you when I had this (vomit) and swore off stats for life? But yeah O2 MK1 + BH = bass
arnesto Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Are there any other manufacturer currently in production that make energizers for the Stax headphones besides Stax, HeadAmp, and WooAudio? I primarily interested in energizers for the Omega II. Another question, do electrostatic headphones emit more EMF that dynamics headphones. I heard there were cases of people in Sweden that were getting brain tumors from too much cellphone use. Is there any possibility of electrostatics being dangerous?
Sherwood Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 You're looking for amplifiers, not energizers. No one still makes energizers. I believe you have listed all current amp manufacturers, though. I wouldn't call mikhail and mcallister "in business". As to the EMF -- everything comes at a cost. I'm unaware of any credible studies linking estats to brain tumors, but the same goes for cell phones.
Tachikoma Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Estats aren't going to emit radio waves so I doubt that there's any chance of that happening (they aren't going to cause cancer the same way handphones _might_, at least). But then again, people have managed to link high voltage power lines to cancer and stuff like that, so...
justin Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 You're looking for amplifiers, not energizers. No one still makes energizers. I believe you have listed all current amp manufacturers, though. I wouldn't call mikhail and mcallister "in business". As to the EMF -- everything comes at a cost. I'm unaware of any credible studies linking estats to brain tumors, but the same goes for cell phones. I doubt the # of people using estats would be large enough for a study to be done
Sherwood Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 I doubt the # of people using estats would be large enough for a study to be done Easy enough to fix... moar estats!
dvse Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Dinny where were you when I had this (vomit) and swore off stats for life? But yeah O2 MK1 + BH = bass It's funny how the whole "SR-404 + SRM-313 is the best intro Stax set up" has been the accepted wisdom on head-fi for quite a while 5 or so years ago... I had the same combo as well! Now SRM-313 is not a bad amp as such and I use it happily now with an SR-X, but when you put it together with SR-404 and "state of the art" digital like DAC1, it makes for a remarkably ear grating experience... In retrospect that was probably one of the worst systems I could assemble.
Sherwood Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 I happily purport that SR Lambda + SRM-T1 is the best intro stax setup. I'll go one further and say it's the best intro setup, period. "Intro" in this case means somewhat shy of $1000, though....
GPH Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 I happily purport that SR Lambda + SRM-T1 is the best intro stax setup. I'll go one further and say it's the best intro setup, period. "Intro" in this case means somewhat shy of $1000, though.... Hell yeah, the Lambda Sig/SRM-T1S combo I had at some point was awesome and definitely a deal at a little bit less than 1000$. I'd go as far as saying it beat the O2 in terms of openness and air, but with that said, the O2 is better in everything else IMO. Still, I'd take the Sig or some Lambda variation over any dynamic headphone I've heard without even thinking.
spritzer Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Are there any other manufacturer currently in production that make energizers for the Stax headphones besides Stax, HeadAmp, and WooAudio? I primarily interested in energizers for the Omega II. There are always Rudistor and RSA but overpriced and crap "engineering" springs to mind... This is being made to custom order in Japan and I know there are talks about offering a 117v/230v version. Nothing set in stone yet though. Another question, do electrostatic headphones emit more EMF that dynamics headphones. I heard there were cases of people in Sweden that were getting brain tumors from too much cellphone use. Is there any possibility of electrostatics being dangerous? If it were the speakers in the cellphones which were the problem then it might be but that's clearly not the case. A cellphone is a powerful transmitter and it can't be good to have it next to the head all day. It's funny how the whole "SR-404 + SRM-313 is the best intro Stax set up" has been the accepted wisdom on head-fi for quite a while 5 or so years ago... I had the same combo as well! Now SRM-313 is not a bad amp as such and I use it happily now with an SR-X, but when you put it together with SR-404 and "state of the art" digital like DAC1, it makes for a remarkably ear grating experience... In retrospect that was probably one of the worst systems I could assemble. SR-007/313 as an entry level setup FTW!!!
dvse Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 I happily purport that SR Lambda + SRM-T1 is the best intro stax setup. I'll go one further and say it's the best intro setup, period. "Intro" in this case means somewhat shy of $1000, though.... No argument from me - I think here it's well recognised that low bias is the way to go outside of Lambda Sig and SR-007 (and perhaps Gamma/SR-X Pro)...
padam Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Another wrote for the normal bias Lambda + T1 but with a good speaker amp an adapter isn't bad either.
Sherwood Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Another wrote for the normal bias Lambda + T1 but with a good speaker amp an adapter isn't bad either. QFT. My Stax setup now uses an adapter, and you have to go pretty high up in the amp range to significantly better it, especially on the SR Lambda.
luvdunhill Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 You're looking for amplifiers, not energizers. No one still makes energizers. really? Since when did Illusion stop selling theirs?
Sherwood Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 I've read at least 15 people asking about where to buy an Illusion over the past two years, and the answer was always "they stopped selling them". If you know otherwise, do share, and I'll buy one today.
grawk Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 esp950 + srm1 or srd7 can be had shy of a grand too
Sherwood Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Esp950 + srm1 is one hell of a setup... The srd7 would, of course, also require an amp.
grawk Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 but you have to have one of those for speakers anyway
spritzer Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 really? Since when did Illusion stop selling theirs? It's been quite a while. I'm thinking about building a few with very high end transformers and sell, just for kicks.
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