spritzer Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 How about instead of establishing a numerical system, because the pins aren't asymmetric like on a 4 pin XLR, naming them by what they are? B, R-, R+. L-, L+? ...you and your fancy ways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Since there is no established numerical system for the Stax jack, what is pin 1? obviously you didn't get the memo: HeadWize - Project: All-Triode Direct-Drive Amps for Electrostatic and Electret Headphones by Kevin Gilmore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Obviously not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Obviously not. I just measured the male WPI connector. It varies by 5%, in that the pins are 5% closer to the center. Interestingly enough, each pin is 0.2" away from it's closest neighbor, center-to-center. Now to decode Spritzer's results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 How about instead of establishing a numerical system, because the pins aren't asymmetric like on a 4 pin XLR, naming them by what they are? B, R-, R+. L-, L+? nah, then we wouldn't have the joy of answering upteen PMs about this if it was in concise form somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I just measured the male WPI connector. It varies by 5%, in that the pins are 5% closer to the center. Interestingly enough, each pin is 0.2" away from it's closest neighbor, center-to-center. Now to decode Spritzer's results. Not surprising as the WPI stuff is a tight fit. nah, then we wouldn't have the joy of answering upteen PMs about this if it was in concise form somewhere. Sad but true. We really wouldn't feel this wanted without all those emails... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Since there is no established numerical system for the Stax jack, what is pin 1? 1 2 5 3 4 Edit. Can't get the code to function correctly so this will have to do. Like this or something different? Anyway, using the above system then each pin is 2.35mm wide and the distance (measured outer edge to outer edge) of pin 1 to pins 2 and 5 is between 10 and 10.05mm. Pin 2 to pin 5 is roughly 13.23-13.25mm. Pin 2 to 3 and pin 5 to pin 4 is roughly 7.77-7.80mm. Pin 3-4 gives me 7.81-7.84mm. The only 6 pin connector I have is on the SR-1 and while it fits alright, the odds are it has been bent a bit in the last 40+ years. yeah, your numbers vary a bit from mine. I'm surprised you see any variance from pin3-4 and pin2-3 and pin5-4, I do see a little, but I think that's just variance in the plug construction. The trick is that the line that passes through the two pins under measurements must be perpendicular to the calipers, or you're measurement will be off a bit. How about 7.86mm for this measurement (pin3-4,pin2-3,pin5-4), how does that look? Also, I get 2.39mm for the pin width, so this could just be calibration error between our calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I just measured two plugs (both Wide PC-OCC type) and I never see numbers that high. The highest I saw was 7.82mm and down to 7.72 so there is either something off with the calipers or some variation in the molding process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) I just measured two plugs (both Wide PC-OCC type) and I never see numbers that high. The highest I saw was 7.82mm and down to 7.72 so there is either something off with the calipers or some variation in the molding process. looks like our calipers are ~0.06mm off from each other. Thanks, this was very helpful! oh one more thing, do you happen to have a 3.5mm diameter drill bit? perhaps you could measure the diameter of that for me as well Edited March 12, 2009 by luvdunhill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Most of my drill bits are probably 60 years old (inherited from my grandfather who was an iron smith) but the 3.5mm ones are 3.48mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggeh Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Is there a difference between an iron smith and a blacksmith or is it just terminological? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 No idea, iron smith is just a direct translation of the Icelandic word "j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypasswordis Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Did he make/wield giant hammers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Probably did wield some in his day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faust3d Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I found a picture of your grandfather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Looks about right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faust3d Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 I wish my grandfather looked like that. All that lightning behind him probably influenced you preference for electrostatics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Is the KGSS really that different/Special?Yes, it really is. If you're going to eschew tubes, then this is the best you can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 man, I had no idea how big this custom R-core would be......puny Ebay model shown for scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabbi1 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Does that mean you can put your psu back together, or, is it a fail? Jesus, and I thought the rSum was big... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Does that mean you can put your psu back together, or, is it a fail? Jesus, and I thought the rSum was big... dunno yet. crossing fingers though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juansan Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Dusty Chalk: thanks for the reply!! I know lots and lots of you prefer the KGSS to the standard Stax amps. I have heard of ES-1 and several other amps but I assume they are no longer available from new, right? Is HeadAmp the best place to get the KGSS from? I know NOTHING about DIY electronics so I need to buy rather than build. Does anyone else make them or are there any "special" versions out there than can be bought? Thanks, sorry if I seem a bit "out of it", the technical stuff is beyond me but if I'm going to spend the money I really do want the best I can get for the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I have heard of ES-1 and several other amps but I assume they are no longer available from new, right? Lets go with "no" on that one. Thats probably easiest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juansan Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Lets go with "no" on that one. Thats probably easiest. LOL, thanks aardvark baguette. If anyone can let me know whether Headamp is the place to go to order the KGSS (or viable alternatives) I will be forever grateful !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Lets go with "no" on that one. Thats probably easiest.Seconded.If anyone can let me know whether Headamp is the place to go to order the KGSS (or viable alternatives) I will be forever grateful !!!!Headamp is your best choice, if you know nothing about DIY and don't want to have to worry about quality control. I'm pretty sure there isn't any commercial alternative, although you could always commission someone to build it, but then you have to worry about quality control, hence the earlier statement. And: forever is a long time, I'll settle for a couple seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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