Should I Get an HD600?

[Kerry]

On 11/3/2016 at 0:49 PM, TMoney said:

Arise, Zombie thread!

 

I tried to get one of these guys morning but couldn't.

Got Oops'd out until they were sold out.

 

[dsavitsk]

I'm sure there will be more than a few "used" pairs available in a few months.

[skullguise]

I was waffling after all since I own the HD-600, ended up trying at around 10am anyway.  Same result.

Someone will eventually sell theirs, as Doug just said....

[TMoney]

And I've heard there will be a second "drop" for these coming down the pipeline.

[purk]

I miss the L3000.  Mulveling has mine now.  They are a work of art.  I also miss my W2002...those wood cups were gorgeous.  

 

Oh...I managed to get one of those Massdrop Senn HD-6xx.  Spent 20 mins trying.

Edited November 8, 2016 by purk

[swt61]

I hate the L3000. To my ears they're bloated fart cannons on par with the Darth Beyers, but with the price tag of an electrostat.

[purk]

The bass was excessive but no way as bad as those Darth Beyers.  Plus, they sound more or less the same as PS-1 but the L3000 has much better craftsmanship.  At one point in time here, the L3000 was considered as a dynamic version of the SR007.  

[mypasswordis]

You can buy 'stats for very cheap, actually. I don't remember the exact amounts but for example, I believe I paid about $200 for my SR202 and less than $100 for my ECR500. That's what makes them so dangerous, they regularly beat on dynamics worth thousands so you think they should cost as much.  

[purk]

Trust me I'm an electrostatic guy all the way and would take my Lambda Pro over them too sound wise.  I just don't think they were Darth Beyer bad.  BTW, they are not bad value given how collectible they are.  They are worth between $4000 to $5000 easy on Yahoo Japan. 

[HiWire]

I took a pass on the HD 6XX. I'll wait and see how prices go on Black Friday... not completely wedded to the Sennheiser sound.

Edited November 8, 2016 by HiWire

[n_maher]

31 minutes ago, HiWire said:

I took a pass on the HD 6XX. I'll wait and see how prices go on Black Friday... not completely wedded to the Sennheiser sound.

This, but mostly because I've already got a pair of 650s which are good enough and sound fantastic with the current dynamic amp, veil be damned.

[Dusty Chalk]

What veil?

I took a pass on the HD6xx...but only because I forgot it was today.  Will "settle" for the HD600 at BHPhoto, which I remember prefering to the HD650 by a small margin.

[purk]

I'm sure the HD6xx will be available again.  So much demand, why not?

[EdipisReks1]

9 minutes ago, purk said:

I'm sure the HD6xx will be available again.  So much demand, why not?

I very much doubt it.  This smells like Sennheiser clearing old parts inventory.  

[MASantos]

3 minutes ago, EdipisReks1 said:

I very much doubt it.  This smells like Sennheiser clearing old parts inventory.  

I don't think that sennheiser will be dropping the HD600/650 from the lineup. This might be a very smart move from them to get quite a few units to the market and increase brand recognition with millennials and get some of the market away from beats. 
 

I bought a pair, I sold my hd650 long time ago and this was a nice opportunity to get a new pair at a great price.

Now I just need to build a new amp for them...

[Dusty Chalk]

12 minutes ago, EdipisReks1 said:

I very much doubt it.  This smells like Sennheiser clearing old parts inventory.  

I don't think so -- the way Massdrop works is, they promote a slightly tweaked version of an already popular product, sort of like Grado did with Head-Fi and the HF-1 and HF-2.  I mean, I still applaud you for being suspicious, as we all should be, but I don't think it's as bad as all that.  They may be using this as a venue for trying out a slightly new tweak on the HD650, there's nothing in the rules against that.  I'm just weary of what the tweaks could be, as I don't consider all tweaks to necessarily be improvements.

[EdipisReks1]

8 minutes ago, Dusty Chalk said:

the way Massdrop works is, they promote a slightly tweaked version of an already popular product, sort of like Grado did with Head-Fi and the HF-1 and HF-2.

That is definitely not how Massdrop mostly works.  I interviewed with them for a job, in 2014, and got the express tour.  The business, behind the scenes, is quite different from how it appears, on its face.

17 minutes ago, MASantos said:

I don't think that sennheiser will be dropping the HD600/650 from the lineup. This might be a very smart move from them to get quite a few units to the market and increase brand recognition with millennials and get some of the market away from beats. 

Keep in mind that Ireland is a big part of the descriptor for these phones.  It's not cheap to manufacture things there, anymore, and hasn't been for years.  Sennheiser almost certainly produced a big lot of components, and has been doling them out.  Also keep in mind that the largest part of Sennheiser revenue is not audiophile products. 

[jpelg]

This entire thread is making me feel nostalgic...

 

and old.

[purk]

I can relate to that.

[swt61]

1 hour ago, n_maher said:

This, but mostly because I've already got a pair of 650s which are good enough and sound fantastic with the current dynamic amp, veil be damned.

I've always thought that was a terrible description of the HD 650. Even those that used the term "veiled" talk about the great resolution of the 650. Well, which is it? Veiled would tend to describe a sound that blocks certain dynamics, and I've never seen the 650 given negative marks for dynamics. I think the whole thing started when the 650 came out and was more bass oriented than the 600 predecessor. Some idiot described that as veiled, and it stuck. I happen to prefer the less bass oriented 580/600, but the 650 is an excellent pair of headphones that gives up nothing in dynamics as compared to the 580/600. 

[EdipisReks1]

I never thought the HD650 was veiled or dark.  I just thought they were a bit bassier than the HD580 and 600, as you say.

Edited November 8, 2016 by EdipisReks1

[blubliss]

Got a 6xx pair after 30 minutes trying.

The L3000 sucks, sold mine a long time ago.

[PFKMan23]

It took me 2 hours, but i got one. But now I'm not sure if I want it. That said, having a backup for my 580s is not a bad thing.

[dsavitsk]

4 hours ago, dsavitsk said:

I'm sure there will be more than a few "used" pairs available in a few months.

 

47 minutes ago, PFKMan23 said:

It took me 2 hours, but i got one. But now I'm not sure if I want it.

QED

[Dusty Chalk]

1 hour ago, swt61 said:

I've always thought that was a terrible description of the HD 650. Even those that used the term "veiled" talk about the great resolution of the 650. Well, which is it? Veiled would tend to describe a sound that blocks certain dynamics, and I've never seen the 650 given negative marks for dynamics. I think the whole thing started when the 650 came out and was more bass oriented than the 600 predecessor. Some idiot described that as veiled, and it stuck. I happen to prefer the less bass oriented 580/600, but the 650 is an excellent pair of headphones that gives up nothing in dynamics as compared to the 580/600. 

No, I remember even before , the HD600 was considered veiled unless you amped it properly . I don't consider one more veiled than the other .