n3rdling Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 You just need to recable the 950 with a Stax pro bias jack so you can run it out of the KGSS. Shouldn't be too difficult, but worth mentioning if you didn't already know.
Deadneddz Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 Do you have a preference for certain sound presentations? For example, do you like your sound to be very detailed? Delicate? Impactful? Ect....
Elephas Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 I like smooth jazz! The BHSE plays Kenny G quite well, "My Heart Will Go On"! So smooth and also detailed too! I'm glad to see other people who share similar taste in music with me! If you're getting a KGSS, you might as well save up a little bit more and go for a used O2mk1 or O2mk2 instead of a Koss. If budget is tight, maybe go for a less expensive used SRM-717 instead of a KGSS.
Dusty Chalk Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 I like smooth jazz!But do you actually listen to it? That was my point. And yes, of course there are people who actually listen to it -- the players and producers themselves obviously listen to their own recordings. And yes, smooth jazz is perfect for porn -- you don't exactly watch porn for the soundtrack, do you?
mypasswordis Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 Smooth jazz + porn == reverse boner, which ruins the point.
Elephas Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 But do you actually listen to it? That was my point. Everything sounds great with electrostats + BHSE.
forbigger Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Posted October 25, 2009 You just need to recable the 950 with a Stax pro bias jack so you can run it out of the KGSS. Shouldn't be too difficult, but worth mentioning if you didn't already know. That I didn't know, thank you.....will search and hv a look.....just to make my life easier, is this recabling a DIY project ? Do you have a preference for certain sound presentations? For example, do you like your sound to be very detailed? Delicate? Impactful? Ect.... I like Grado sound signature especially HF2. With stats, I'm looking for a HF2 sound signature with more clarity, impact and ofcourse detail or alternatively a 701 sound signature with more bass, detail, clarity and warm.....You reckon I can find it with stats ? My apology if my expectation is too much but again I dont have any stats rigs to audience
Dusty Chalk Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 If you're buying the KGSS new, you might ask to see if he'll do a Koss jack for you. Then there will be no need for the recable -- one or the other, not both.
forbigger Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Posted October 25, 2009 You mean the adapter or have him drilled two headphones output on the front panel ? One for stax and the other for Koss?
Beefy Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 You mean the adapter or have him drilled two headphones output on the front panel ? One for stax and the other for Koss? That would be a good option. Saves you having to recable if you don't want to do that, and more elegant than adapters.
spritzer Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 There is no way to install a Koss socket on the amp since it isn't a stock design.
forbigger Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Posted October 25, 2009 Yeah, although its an elegant solution I doubt Justin would want to fix it for me. Anyway, PM him and request for an adapter. Hope he doesn't mind
grawk Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 The elegant solution is to put a stax cable on the koss. No reason not to, really.
jp11801 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 Smooth Jazz is not Jazz it is instrumental pop with any vestige of soul and feeling genetically removed by evil overlords attempting to remove emotion from our DNA through music. Friends don't let friends listen to Smooth Jazz
manaox2 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 The elegant solution is to put a stax cable on the koss. No reason not to, really. I did the adapter because it was cheaper then finding a good stax cable ($90 compared to $12)
forbigger Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Posted October 25, 2009 you DIY or buy it off the shelf. If you bought it off the shelf, can enlighten me where did you get it ? Thanks
jp11801 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 you DIY or buy it off the shelf. If you bought it off the shelf, can enlighten me where did you get it ? Thanks It is not a major manufacture item you need to either fabricate one yourself or contact one of the many cable makers out there, I think APS makes one.
forbigger Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Posted October 25, 2009 Yikes.....$130 for adapter only.......APureSound - Where The Music Is Always Pure - APS Audio LLC. Guess this is the price I have to pay to step into stats realm...... Justin.....if you read this thread, appreciate if you could give me cheaper alternative
manaox2 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 you DIY or buy it off the shelf. If you bought it off the shelf, can enlighten me where did you get it ? Thanks I did DIY. Total is about $15 in materials. You cut the extension cable in half. then you strip the ends of the wires with a wire stripper tool (cheap, easily found). Then you make sure the end conductors are tight together and tin them with solder (cover them in a little solder with a soldering gun, a cheap one should work for this job I'd bet). You have to match up the six wires to the right five pins, you can easily find the stock koss and stax pin outs with very easily to follow pictures on faust's headphone wiki. You solder the right wire/s to the correct pins (the bias pin will have two of the wires soldered for pro bias which is what you would want). Add some stiff 3/4" heat shrink over the finished work (I like to make it stiff so that it is good tension relief and gives you something to use when plugging and unplugging the connector. I put the female koss end with a male stax socket and the male koss end to female socket and it allows you to use pro Stax with the E90 (not that its a great driver unit, but it works) and connect the two together to make an extension to the E90 again. You can get the WPI stax female and male connectors from Allied electronics. (WPI - 86-71-6S - Allied Electronics and WPI - 78-S6S - Allied)
forbigger Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Posted October 25, 2009 hey thanks very much manaox........you just saved me $100-ish......
Deadneddz Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 I like Grado sound signature especially HF2. With stats, I'm looking for a HF2 sound signature with more clarity, impact and ofcourse detail or alternatively a 701 sound signature with more bass, detail, clarity and warm.....You reckon I can find it with stats ? My apology if my expectation is too much but again I dont have any stats rigs to audience Have never heard the ESP950, but from reading it sounds like it may be up your alley. Many of the current production stats will have excellent clarity and finesse compared to the HF2 and K701, two headphones that I do not feel are especially stong in the clarity department. Im not too sure about the impact, even with the KGSS, but I have to let the ESP950 owners answer that question.
manaox2 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 I think the HF-2 has greater impact from recent memory. The ESP950 are detail monsters and very clear and airy sounding. They have more detail and separation then the Lambda Signature to me. These phones point out flaws in recording or setup very well in my opinion. Getting one that is balanced between L&R and without the squeal is hit and miss, but luckily you can keep trying to get it right for the price of shipping and handling from the Koss factory as many times if and as necessary with their no questions asked unlimited warranty.
catscratch Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 If you're getting a KGSS built specifically for the Koss, up the bias voltage to 620V/630V or whatever the Koss needs, I don't remember off the top of my head. Don't know much about smooth Jazz except that a) it's not Jazz and there's no point in getting a system for smooth Jazz specifically since it is just about the worst music out there for actually judging a system, which is why every vendor uses it and every audiophile publication pushes it as hard as possible. If you want to find out what a system is made of, load it up with something demanding. Otherwise, an HD600 with a decent tube amp is all you'll ever need, and even that is probably overkill.
manaox2 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Posted October 25, 2009 ESP950 is 600V but some recommend 620V for extra response and that shouldn't be dangerous. Even a Stax pro phone seems like it should still be fine with that and its 580V default.
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