Hopstretch Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Posted December 27, 2009 How does the DL-S1 compare to the Zyx, JP?
jp11801 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 the ZYXs is fuller and the Denon is thinner but slightly faster, this may be due to the silver coils in the ZYX. I may be going full hog on the Denon, I am looking at the matching SUT for it. The cart that was the sleeper was the re-tipped clearaudio. I got barraged with emails after placing it on audiogon.
Hopstretch Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Posted December 27, 2009 People love those. And it was a deal. I twitched a bit myself.
Augsburger Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 the ZYXs is fuller and the Denon is thinner but slightly faster, this may be due to the silver coils in the ZYX. I may be going full hog on the Denon, I am looking at the matching SUT for it. The cart that was the sleeper was the re-tipped clearaudio. I got barraged with emails after placing it on audiogon. What did you finally get the DL-S1 for? That and the 103R at $379, are currently on my radar.
jp11801 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Posted December 27, 2009 I scoured the web and I found the DL-S1 on audio asylum for $500 looks like the clearaudio is sold, the DL160 has an offer I am waiting to hear back on the ZYX has a guy in Europe with a buddy in the states that I could ship to (these types of transactions alway make me nervous) and the Denon 103 has few nibbles so hopefully I can afford the SUT in the next few days.
randerson3024 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 What did you finally get the DL-S1 for? That and the 103R at $379, are currently on my radar. Has anyone in the Denon market checked out the Zu 103? Trust me, this cartridge is fantastic.
Augsburger Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 Isn't the Zu 103 basically a DL-103 with a wooden shell? Does the wood shell make that much of a difference? I wonder how it would stack up against a DL-103R or a DL-S1. Started down that (slippery) road which then led to the Soundsmith 103 Ruby then 103 Silver, that's when I ran away.
jp11801 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 The Zu is an aluminium shell (I think) and they test the cart for L/R output and sell/price them accordingly. I really like the Zu folks but think Peter Lederman of Sound-Smith may be the better way to go.
penger Posted December 28, 2009 Report Posted December 28, 2009 Isn't the Zu 103 basically a DL-103 with a wooden shell? Does the wood shell make that much of a difference? I wonder how it would stack up against a DL-103R or a DL-S1. Zu website says: Based on the legendary Denon DL-103
Hopstretch Posted December 28, 2009 Author Report Posted December 28, 2009 The Zu is an aluminium shell (I think) and they test the cart for L/R output and sell/price them accordingly. I really like the Zu folks but think Peter Lederman of Sound-Smith may be the better way to go. The Soundsmith Denons get real spendy real fast. You start to get into some pretty nice alternatives at those price points. Soundsmith / Denon
jp11801 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 yes but that buys you a much better diamond profile and cantilever, I am skeptical of just how far you can take the 103 . Personally I'd buy used and enjoy a 103 for what it is.
crappyjones123 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 any thoughts on the following turntable? Sony PS- LX350H guy at school is selling it.
nikongod Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) This thread made me buy a (second, had one before) denon 103. I cant wait to get it broken in, and modified like my old one. I wonder if it will sound good on the arm on my harris idler (Micro-Trak 303a) I think its worth a shot. any thoughts on the following turntable? Sony PS- LX350H I would pass on this one. knowing absolutely nothing about it, it looks like a farly average consumer grade piece of gear. Unless its reallllllly cheap you can do better elsewhere. Keep an eye on craigslist & goodwill type shopes for older stuff. Edited December 29, 2009 by nikongod
crappyjones123 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 well he is selling that and a rega p1 with the glass platter upgrade for 300. thats seems too much money for me. if anyone else thinks thats a decent deal, given instructions on how to pack it, i can act as middle man. no fees required of course. emailed him to see how much it would cost. havent heard from him yet.
deepak Posted December 29, 2009 Report Posted December 29, 2009 Hooray my disc jockey TT has arrived. Setting it up now
Hopstretch Posted December 29, 2009 Author Report Posted December 29, 2009 Woot woot! Don't forget to thoroughly clean your records beforehand.
deepak Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 I won't be taking it for a spin tonight, I forgot to print the protractor from VinylEngine Oh well three new 45 rpm Fantasy LPs showed up today as well
nikongod Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) Boredom struck. rest of album That cartridge has had a long life. It started as a "red." I got it with a Rega Planar 2 a long time ago, and replaced the stylus with a green stylus. Then I did the "longhorn" mod (this is why there is a thin line of glue across the top of grado in the pics) part of the longhorn mod is injecting silicon oil into the coils, which I may have overdone. I peeled off the little metal cover thingy over the coils and here it sits. If I ever buy another new to me grado, the coils are getting potted, or at least varnished together. Edited December 30, 2009 by nikongod
jp11801 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Ari, you are a mad scientist! Oh I forgot to mention this earlier but for those that are considering a Zu modded 103 please buy direct and not from Bill Feil (audiofeil international on audiogon). It's ok by the way as he told me after a funny email exchange that he does not want my business or the business of anyone I know.
tom_hankins Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Ari, you are a mad scientist! Oh I forgot to mention this earlier but for those that are considering a Zu modded 103 please buy direct and not from Bill Feil (audiofeil international on audiogon). It's ok by the way as he told me after a funny email exchange that he does not want my business or the business of anyone I know. I'm pretty sure i got the same email a year or so ago, and I have no problem granting his wishes.
jp11801 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Tom that is weird I figured I caught him on a bad day or something
tom_hankins Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Tom that is weird I figured I caught him on a bad day or something He emailed me trying to push some of his products on me over something (he doesnt sell) I had asked about on Agon. I said no thanks and then he emailed about how most of the recommendations I had got in the thread were no good and he could hook me up with much better. Anyway I called him out on it in the thread and he emailed me letting me know to shop somewhere else. Which i had planned already. Maybe we both caught him on the same day. Maybe its because I was going to get something from Audio revelation, I think they are mortal audio enemies. been really enjoying the records, hope i didnt get to off the wall with the CDs i sent.
Hopstretch Posted December 30, 2009 Author Report Posted December 30, 2009 Maybe its because I was going to get something from Audio revelation, I think they are mortal audio enemies. Yeah, it's pretty funny. One of them will advertise some piece they carry, say a tonearm, on Audiogon and the other will immediately list whatever they have that is the direct competition at the price point. So the ads almost always appear right after each other. Not sure who is dogging who, but Jay at AR has been nothing but helpful and nice to me when I've asked him about his lines, which is definitely more than is being said here of Mr. Fail. Sorry, Feil.
Augsburger Posted December 30, 2009 Report Posted December 30, 2009 Hmmmm, he carries Audio Aero and is located in Carlsbad which we visit about four times a year. I think we may make a little detour next time we head down to San Diego.
jp11801 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Posted December 31, 2009 Well Jay kinda fucked me over at one point over a cart I sold on Agon. It was kinda my fault for capitulating to his customer but he did stick his nose in where quite frankly it didn't belong. At the end of the day you pay your money and you take your chances
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