Hopstretch Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Posted October 21, 2009 Any particular reason why LPs might relatively consistently have more surface noise on the first few tracks of each album side versus the last few? Poor cartridge setup? Sorry, still figuring this out as I go along.
grenert Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Any particular reason why LPs might relatively consistently have more surface noise on the first few tracks of each album side versus the last few? Poor cartridge setup? Sorry, still figuring this out as I go along. Greater linear velocity?
robm321 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Any particular reason why LPs might relatively consistently have more surface noise on the first few tracks of each album side versus the last few? Poor cartridge setup? Sorry, still figuring this out as I go along. Might be an alignment issue unless you are talking about used records. The idea being that many of the times records get put on but not finished.? So, more wear on the outer part of the record.
nikongod Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Greater linear velocity? Higher linear velocities allow lower noise. More noise in the outer groves than the inner groves is usually an alignment issue. If noise is audible at all it should be fairly constant across the face of the record or MAYBE a little worse in the inner groves (depending what alignment method you use). I would spend some more time with your alignment gauges. If you happen to have the kind of magnifying glass one would expect an old man to have to read the newspaper or a jewelers loupe, bust it out and get busy with the protractor. Until you are comfy setting up a cartridge just let it take as long as it takes. Even once you have the hang of it, let it take as long as it takes. If you want to try some other alignment methods (or double check your protractor against a different one), the various print it yourself protractors from vinylengine are all very nice. I like the "AccuTrak" protractor myself, It has a bunch of alignment methods, and is reasonably easy to use. As a note, if you are using an "ARC" protractor: ARC protractors may not work with a rega arm on a non-rega TT. ARC protractors require a very specific mounting distance, which sadly doesn't allow baerwald alignment with all cartridges on a rega arm. The solution is to mount the arm 1-2mm "short" to allow baerwald, BUT because of the way they work, arc-tractors will never work properly with an arm mounted 2mm short of what they were drawn for.
Hopstretch Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Posted October 21, 2009 Thanks Ari. I set up somewhat hastily with the Rega template from the box and probably need to do a little more tweaking.
jp11801 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 best $125 TT spend was a Mint LP protractor they cut a precise arc that has you in alignment on a razor line from out side the lip of the LP to the center. Yip from Mint LP can cut you a custom protractor for like $125 made for your table and arm.
Dusty Chalk Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Just saw this advertised today for the first time. Hawt: (new Thorens triangular-balance turntable)
jp11801 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Just saw this advertised today for the first time. Hawt: (new Thorens triangular-balance turntable) it got abused at the Hoffman site, although I admit to being pissed today after my evil plan to score two DD TTs went down in flames within 10 minutes of each other
deepak Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 it got abused at the Hoffman site, although I admit to being pissed today after my evil plan to score two DD TTs went down in flames within 10 minutes of each other Was the minty PS-X800 one of them?
jp11801 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 yes if you bought it I am driving to NH to duct tape you and kidnap that table I was planning the geekiest event a three way shootout between the sony ps-x7, sony ps-x800 and yamaha px-3
deepak Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 yes if you bought it I am driving to NH to duct tape you and kidnap that table I didn't It ended a bit high for me, but I prefer not to take risks with ebay anymore for things that could easily get damaged in shipping \
jp11801 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 I didn't It ended a bit high for me, but I prefer not to take risks with ebay anymore for things that could easily get damaged in shipping \ I was going to drive down to LA and pick it up, oh there will be more
Hopstretch Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Posted October 21, 2009 Yeah, so, turntables are definitely best set up stone cold sober. Got the cart aligned much better today and the surface noise is now even across the record (and substantially diminished overall).
Voltron Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 You need a 12-step program just to set up your TT! Glad you got it dialed in better. Enjoy.
deepak Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 I was going to drive down to LA and pick it up, oh there will be more SL-1200? No need for duct tape as you could use it as a weapon too, looks like a meaty transformer hidden under that platter.
Hopstretch Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Posted October 21, 2009 You need a 12-step program just to set up your TT! I bet either the dealer or JP set up yours. Admit it!
Voltron Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 I bet either the dealer or JP set up yours. Admit it! Todd pre-mounted the original cart but I have done the rest myself, including installing the new cart. Beotch!
jp11801 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Todd pre-mounted the original cart but I have done the rest myself, including installing the new cart. Beotch! yes but you need to get the Mint LP protractor to really dime it in! I'm playing mad alchemist with TT mats tonight and tomorrow night. Shelf liner worked and sounded better than the rubber mat, cork and foam are on deck tomorrow night if Michael's Crafts has them in stock.
swt61 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 I wonder if this will be any good: The answer would be yes IMO. I've owned two in the past, and loved them both. There is a lot of adjustment built in, and IMO the Mitsubishi stands the test of time better than the Yamaha and Technics linears.
tyrion Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 I've been meaning to pm you about it since I saw you had owned it in the past. I will know Monday if it's mine. I've borrowed this Kenwood KD-650 which I like:
jp11801 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Did some ragged DIY for a turntable mat tonight as my Sony rubber mat has seen better days and I was not sure if it might be impacting the sound. I made one of these up Spotmat 10 Mine looks much more rustic and is not as symmetrical but did the trick and to my ears is better than the rubber mat. If you've got a TT and are thinking about spending $100 for a platter mat check out the DIY options. Any ideas on how to cut a true 11.75" circle and 3/4" dots better than with a scissor or in my case an exacto knife?
luvdunhill Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Any ideas on how to cut a true 11.75" circle and 3/4" dots better than with a scissor or in my case an exacto knife? a compass / scribe?
nikongod Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) Any ideas on how to cut a true 11.75" circle and 3/4" dots better than with a scissor or in my case an exacto knife? michaels sells a matte-board cutter for making circles. very good for the big circles. If you are patient, a compass and scissor is 95% of as good, the circular matt cutter is kind of pricey and when I tried it fiddly to set up. Its probably only worth it if you want to take the throne from the guy who was selling these DIY mats on ebay. For the small circles, you can buy uberlarge hole punches (probably from michaels too) for making 3/4" hearts and stars and circles. hopefully they will have the circle one at your local shop Here are some I found: This one looks good! they may have a suitable circulat matt cutter, could not find it myself though. Something like this one will work perfectly and will never break although it is very noisy when you wack it with a harmer/mallet. Also cool if you want to cut dots into the base... just an idea. amazon link The circular punch I have used looks like this one here. Im pretty sure they have them at michaels. the star one could make cool dots too. I have seen DIY mats on audioasylum that use hand cut angular pieces (diamonds, triangles, etc) so maybe the star would be cool. Edited: as a preemptive strike you may want to try this on for size: sorbothane depending who you ask the best or worst thing ever for a mat. easy and cheap to test for yourself Edited October 23, 2009 by nikongod
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