deepak Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 No thread for the latest ladder DAC on Head-Case I believe it does HDCD, looks like it does it through the custom DSP filter? Naim Audio # Chassis: The 3mm aluminium chassis and die cast fascia provide the fundamental structural rigidity necessary for low microphony. # Printed Circuit Boards: Six layer glass fiber PCBs optimised for low microphony and high speed data transfer. # Analogue Filters: Two Cascaded third order Sallen-Key active filters giving 36dB/Octave roll-off. Each stage incorporates Naim zero-feedback complimentary buffers. # I to V Converters: Convert the current output of the digital to analogue converters to a voltage waveform ready for analogue filtering. # DAC Chips: Burr Brown PCM1704K. A true multi-bit digital to analogue converter chip as used in the CD555. # Re-clocking Gate: Re-clocks the data immediately before it enters the DAC chips to remove any influence from the isolation circuits. # Crystal Sine-wave Oscillators: Crystal oscillators have lower signal correlated noise and phase noise than voltage controlled clocks. The DAC employs ten separately tuned oscillators. # DSP to Analogue Electrical Isolation: Ensures that the high frequency noise of digital electronics cannot leak into the analogue output stages. # SHARC DSP: Operates on the digital data to filter the out-of-band artifacts. 40bit, 16 times over-sampling topology. # Blackfin DSP: Handles USB, controls the DAC and conditions the incoming USB data. # Data RAM: Buffers the incoming S/PDIF data stream ready for re-clocking by the appropriate crystal oscillator. # Low Noise Power Supply: Multi-regulated and smoothed power supply with separate outputs for each element.
feckn_eejit Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Woah... Naim has forever been anti-separates (save for power supplies!) This is very cool... someone buy my D1!
tyrion Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 With any luck, Oz will get one for me to try. Not that I need a dac but I've always liked Naim gear. I would love to check out the HDX.
n_maher Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 The Naim DAC provides eight S/PDIF inputs, two USB inputs, and is capable of handling audio data sampled at up to 768kHz and with up to 32bit resolution.Wut?
deepak Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Posted September 25, 2009 Wut? One of them is in the front. Maybe if someone wants to come over with a laptop or something.
Cankin Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 One of them is in the front. Maybe if someone wants to come over with a laptop or something. I believe the question was how the hack can it accept 24/768 over USB Formats Audio files supported: USB = WAV (LPCM up to 768kHz / 32bit) Sample Rate USB 32kHz to 768kHz, 24bit S/PDIF 32kHz to 192kHz, 24 bit iPod, iPhone 48kHz max
cclragnarok Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 I don't think it's a regular USB DAC that connects to a computer. According to the description, you plug USB memory sticks into the USB ports. The DAC then reads and plays the music files stored on the memory stick.
deepak Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) Yes good point I didn't think of that Maybe it's poorly worded and means it upsamples USB data to that frequency. I don't think it's a regular USB DAC that connects to a computer. According to the description, you plug USB memory sticks into the USB ports. The DAC then reads and plays the music files stored on the memory stick. Then that is a bit strange, since it does have a Blackfin DSP on board and I believe someone here was going to (or thought about) using a Blackfin for regular USB input from a computer. Edited September 26, 2009 by deepak
Cankin Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 I don't think it's a regular USB DAC that connects to a computer. According to the description, you plug USB memory sticks into the USB ports. The DAC then reads and plays the music files stored on the memory stick. You're right, I just looked at the white paper
Hopstretch Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 Is it wrong to be biased against Naim without any personal experience at all, just because so many annoying English wankers are so devoted to it?
morphsci Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 It also has the Apple authentication chip so it can receive the unprocessed digital data from your iphone/ipod.
tyrion Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 It also has the Apple authentication chip so it can receive the unprocessed digital data from your iphone/ipod. Just noticed that. Interesting. I wonder what the price is.
Cankin Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 [url=http://whathifi.com/News/Naim-launches-1950-zero-jitter-DAC-complete-with-iPod-digital-input/]
tyrion Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 [url=http://whathifi.com/News/Naim-launches-1950-zero-jitter-DAC-complete-with-iPod-digital-input/]
Hopstretch Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 That would be very decent price point if they actually have completely eliminated jitter from the S/PDIF interface. Proof, pudding etc.
Dusty Chalk Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 Is it wrong to be biased against Naim without any personal experience at all, just because so many annoying English wankers are so devoted to it?Yes.
Tachikoma Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 I believe it does HDCD, looks like it does it through the custom DSP filter? IIRC the PMD200 is actually a blackfin DSP (like the one the Naim is using) so it looks like they've re-created the PMD200 somehow... I hope the USB stick/ipod input have been done properly - me likes not having to worry about SPDIF.
a_technicolor_skye Posted September 27, 2009 Report Posted September 27, 2009 it's not that difficult to do if you resample and reclock the signal. say, like what a certain French company does... Which French company is that? Thanks
n_maher Posted September 27, 2009 Report Posted September 27, 2009 Which French company is that? Thanks
The Monkey Posted September 27, 2009 Report Posted September 27, 2009 That would be very decent price point if they actually have completely eliminated jitter from the S/PDIF interface. Proof, pudding, spotted dick, etc. British.
feckn_eejit Posted September 27, 2009 Report Posted September 27, 2009 wtf?ah balls, f'd by image embed protection thingie. was meant to be an album cover shot - _Louder than Words_ by The Jitters. Felt the band name was appropriate. Actually not too bad an album either!
Dreadhead Posted September 27, 2009 Report Posted September 27, 2009 Me interested.... Very interested.....
seroxatmad Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 Is it wrong to be biased against Naim without any personal experience at all, just because so many annoying English wankers are so devoted to it? Thanks....
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