kevin gilmore Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 You get that look with a specially made fly cutter, taking off about .00005 inch. MOAR HOLES http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/t2chassis11.jpg
swt61 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Ah, so it's not completely flat. I wondered how they did it.
n_maher Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Kevin, Do you have the top panel as a cad file? If so, want to email it to me? I'd like to play around with some venting options that don't use MOAR HOLES. I liked the look of the '9' version of the top panel better and thing that adding slots might look cleaner. That's just my 2
kevin gilmore Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) The file is in a place i can't get to from here at the moment, but i'm pretty sure i can convert it to dxf format and send it to you... Tomorrow, first thing. Ah, so it's not completely flat. I wondered how they did it. You do know that nothing in this world is ever perfectly flat Edited October 27, 2009 by kevin gilmore
swt61 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 You do know that nothing in this world is ever perfectly flat You haven't seen my love life.
Duggeh Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 You do know that nothing in this world is ever perfectly flat Last nights bottle of tonic water always is.
justin Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 Ah, so it's not completely flat. I wondered how they did it. omg, its jeff rowland style
spritzer Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Posted October 27, 2009 Justin, how many times do we have to tell you this, stop stealing from others!!!!!!!!!
nattonrice Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 HAHAHA that's awesome =] Edit: Oh! and there are moar holes
penger Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 omg, its jeff rowland style You didn't show what I think you did, did you?
luvdunhill Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 ...what? OMG! Is that the BHSE Slim?
manaox2 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Posted October 27, 2009 OMG! Is that the BHSE Slim? The fins would go well in your pocket.
jgazal Posted October 28, 2009 Report Posted October 28, 2009 MOAR HOLES http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/t2chassis11.jpg This DIY design is fantastic and Mr. Gilmore is doing an astonishing work. I know that it is very impolite to give opinions when you are a layman and not proficient to suggest alternatives, but I would like to ask a few questions regarding air circulation. More holes are needed for dissipating tube heat or resistors heat? If they are required to dissipate heat deriving from resistors, should those holes be placed near/around the tube sockets in the DIY SRM-T2? Justin could explain why he decided to do BHSE holes this way: Regarding the DIY SRM-T2 chassis and PCB integration, are those resistors placed at the tube sockets PCB side (above side) or at the internal PCB side (below side)? Correct me if I am wrong, but I think there was surface mount resistors below the PCB in the original SRM-T2. BHSE too: If the DIY SRM-T2 has them placed below, how the heat can raise to the above side (tube sockets side)? Again, correct me if I am wrong, but I have not seen wholes provided at the DIY SRM-T2 PCB (like BHSE) to do that task besides those at the outer limits where the semiconductors are soldered. Are those pcb outer holes sufficient to let air circulating? If hot air is arising, shouldn’t be good to have holes above the chassis to let cold air entering the chassis? Or XLR, RCA, IEC and other connectors already let air enter the chassis interior? Last but not least. I have been reading that a faraday’s cage is very difficult to achieve. Once you have one hole, EMI or RFI is entering the case. Is that somehow frequency dependent (refraction)? If not, more holes would not be prejudicial, would them? Should 6DJ8 be shielded like they were at the original SRM-T2 to accomplish that purpose? Regards, Jose Luis
HeadphoneAddict Posted October 28, 2009 Report Posted October 28, 2009 You want air to not only flow through the holes but across the board and components inside.
Les_Garten Posted October 28, 2009 Report Posted October 28, 2009 Actually I had never looked close enough to appreciate the holes in the BHSE before. I think if Kevin trys to get holes into his PCB, I'll have to get a bigger desk! Because the board will have to go up 25% in size to accomodate holes!
kevin gilmore Posted October 28, 2009 Report Posted October 28, 2009 So on the original T2, there are a lot of .5 watt resistors on the bottom of the board, lots of holes, lots of internal heatsinks, tubes completely inside, no ground plane of any kind, and the exterior gets to 55C. The inside gets to more like 75+C. On my T2, everything that generates more than .5 watt (with 2 resistor exceptions) is mounted directly to the heatsink. While more holes in the board is probably going to be a good idea, the tubes generate thermal flow that will pull air thru the unit. A thermal design program i'm playing with basically indicates that more holes is not always a good thing as it reduces air flow. I gave the board layout to the master (justin) and he will do some cleanup. Otherwise in less than 2 weeks i'm going to send the boards out. 1
n_maher Posted October 28, 2009 Report Posted October 28, 2009 Early reports have the 4ch P&G pot coming in around $400 (for an order of 10) with a 5-6 week lead time.
spritzer Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Posted October 28, 2009 That's a very good price. No word on the TKD's yet but I'm hopeful they will offer us a cheap alternative.
Currawong Posted October 29, 2009 Report Posted October 29, 2009 That's a very good price. No word on the TKD's yet but I'm hopeful they will offer us a cheap alternative. I ended up at the tail end of this enquiry. The factory wont sell direct, which means cherry picking a retailer locally or online. All the ones I tried don't list the CP2500, nor any pots from TKD, so it means contacting them and hoping whatever monkey gets the enquiry wont throw on a stupidly massive markup. Half the retailers are pro-audio or sound-engineer-type pro-audio ("You want what?") and the rest are the odd electronic parts retailers. The latter with online stores will hopefully price them reasonably. I have the day off tomorrow so I'll see what I can find out. Now to find out WTF a 4-pot attenuator is called in Japanese.
spritzer Posted October 29, 2009 Author Report Posted October 29, 2009 I figured Craig would farm this one out. It's a 4 gang pot or just quad pot. TKD also uses a suffix for the parts so 2CPxxx would be a regular stereo pot, 4CPxxxx would be the quad versions and then 6 and 8 respectively. Good luck.
pabbi1 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Posted October 29, 2009 THLAudio has the 2P65 listed - he also has Seiden and Shallco, so maybe he can get exotics as well.
Currawong Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 The 4CP2500 is 9,261 yen inc. tax, so about US$100 + Craig's fees.
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