mirumu Posted August 10, 2009 Report Posted August 10, 2009 Been talking to Carl and we're both keen on building one of these.
kevin gilmore Posted August 10, 2009 Report Posted August 10, 2009 Quotes for PCBs after 1 day, amateurs 3 days ! So if i'm an amateur what do you call mikhail...
kevin gilmore Posted August 10, 2009 Report Posted August 10, 2009 (edited) If bigir finds me another T2 floating around for sale from a reputable dealer/person i would buy it just to add it to the collection of other things. I can do a better job 25 years later. But justin class chassis's are a whole bunch of work. At least i'm very now well familiar with the 3D milling machines and the software, so i can make a chassis with all sorts of pretty holes pretty easily And even go for completely custom one piece heatsinks. Then ship the stuff out for anodizing. Should cost about $1k for the chassis. Assuming the labor is free. The arlon circuit board makes no difference as the lower capacitance is definitely not necessary, and it probably would have to be much thicker to hold off the 1kv floating around. This is pretty close now after about 18 hours of work. http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/staxt2rev0.bmp at least all the obvious errors are gone, and the ground plane has about 95% coverage once i add it. Edited August 10, 2009 by kevin gilmore
spritzer Posted August 11, 2009 Author Report Posted August 11, 2009 1k-2k$ for the chassis isn't a bad deal but we simply have to make it in that gun metal gray. If bigir finds me another T2 floating around for sale from a reputable dealer/person i would buy it just to add it to the collection of other things. I will continue to search.
Torpedo Posted August 11, 2009 Report Posted August 11, 2009 Oh yes, I like that gun metal or titanium gray
kevin gilmore Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 proposed power supply for high voltages http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/staxt2multips.jpg There will be at least 5 of them. +500, +250, -250,-500, -560 might be overkill for the bias. Way better than 1% regulation. Not dual tracking, that is a lot more work. and probably unnecessary due to the servo's already in the thing. Could do them as shunt regulated supplies, they would then dissipate a bunch more heat.
luvdunhill Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 Is it really possible to draw 100mA from the 10M90S?
kevin gilmore Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 They say so, but in any case i'm going to put 2 in parallel at 50 ma each just to make absolutely sure. Amp as is runs 80ma.
justin Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 This is pretty close now after about 18 hours of work. http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/staxt2rev0.bmp at least all the obvious errors are gone, and the ground plane has about 95% coverage once i add it. you have a shorted LED all the way on the top left
Icarium Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 I want one too ;p 3-4 sets of boards at least and at least 1 chassis if its an option And of course help with prototyping costs.
kevin gilmore Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 you have a shorted LED all the way on the top left And its mirror cousin. Fixed those two... thanks.. the npn on the power schematic is actually a 2sc3340 and the reference will be a ref102 because its less than half the price for the same thing.
pabbi1 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 I'm going to end up somewhere next year with lots of sand and nothing to do. This will definitely be on my list of time killers. Amazing you keep stat equiptment in places like this: That was BFE West of Baghdad This is BFE Kandahar (compliments of my brother with MARCOM) Someone in Israel asked me how to keep dust off the stats - I wouldn't have the first clue, as I understand it to be more like talcum.
kevin gilmore Posted August 18, 2009 Report Posted August 18, 2009 power supply coming along. http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/staxt2rev0power-2.bmp Need +/-12 and high voltage delay circuit. have the one of the supplies on the bench for testing, works great. Initial quote for the transformers is 3.7 OD, 1.8 High. Plenty of room in the box for 3 of them.
kevin gilmore Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Things are coming along, current board has layout for standard (i.e. cheap) and the teflon sockets, i'm thinking of going with the teflon sockets only. Any opinions on this... Definitely going to be less than $2000 in parts not including chassis. even with the teflon sockets and the SumR transformers.
Icarium Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 I'm down.. if we can keep the parts cost at around 2.5k - 3k I should be fine.
Beefy Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Things are coming along, current board has layout for standard (i.e. cheap) and the teflon sockets, i'm thinking of going with the teflon sockets only. Any opinions on this... Not that I could ever build one...... but IMHO considering cheap sockets seems a bit silly in a build of this magnitude
seacard Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Man, I wish I had some technical skills. Justin, you going to be making these? Naamanf?
kevin gilmore Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) teflon sockets only it is. Actually looks a bit better this way. Anyone that can build a dynahi can build this. If you stuff all the parts in the right place and can do a really good job of soldering it should be a snap. http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/staxt2connexonlyrev0-2.bmp ground plane removed for picture otherwise it wipes everything away, components that don't look like they have a lead connected are connected to ground http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/staxt2rev0power-6.bmp i even have a bill of materials. (first time ever) so i have a clue how much its gonna cost, and how many more parts to buy. 231 semiconductors makes this the most complicated headphone amp ever. Edited August 21, 2009 by kevin gilmore
Beefy Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Anyone that can build a dynahi can build this. That isn't as much of a help as you may think
seacard Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Anyone that can build a dynahi can build this. If you stuff all the parts in the right place and can do a really good job of soldering it should be a snap. I can see at least three things there that I would be unable to do. Maybe more.
Icarium Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Question: How much heatsinking will this need in comparison to the BH?
Hopstretch Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 PM HeadphoneAddict. He can probably knock one together for you after he finishes up his Blue Hawaii.
Beefy Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 PM HeadphoneAddict. He can probably knock one together for you after he finishes up his Blue Hawaii. Oooooh, kitty has claws!
Icarium Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Basically its like putting together one of those 1000 piece puzzles right? except sometimes electricity might come and kill you.
kevin gilmore Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Question: How much heatsinking will this need in comparison to the BH? mostly due to layout. BHSE has 2 heatsinks 12 inches long. plus heatsinks inside the power supply. T2 amplifier has 2 heatsinks same height 17 inches long. T2 power supply has 2 heatsinks same height 17 inches long. (it really does not need this much, but it will look better when sitting under the amplifier.)
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