luvdunhill Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 It's not off-the shelf, but vintage Pioneer (p)leather pads from the SE-205 series fit. interesting. I'd love to fit some leather pads on there... perhaps from that j$ guy or something.
Guest sachu Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 Tthe T50 sounded the best to me last I heard. Even better than the YH-1000:o across the frequency range except for bass. Though the T50V1 had it in spades and probably in moar quantity than the YH1000...that 3 dimensional bass that the YH-1k had was very special. Then again I would settle for the T50V1 easily Don, what surprised me that they actually stuffed that much glass wool in there for damping.
dBel84 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 Did you do anything about the cable exit hole? I ended up doing 2 things to secure the cable 1. I used hot glue as in the original 2. I used a small cable tie which takes up the slack on the inner edge of the cup = I didn't think it would but after test fitting them it was evident that this could be done. My mind rests easier that there is more than just some glue holding it all together. Having re-read my cryptic response to Nates question, it seems ambiguous even to me . The cable reference was to the original and not the cable that I replaced it with. Yes Saachi, that is quite a wad of glass fibre and yet, I added even more stuff inside. ..dB
swt61 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 Very nice work! They even look so much more the business now. Just curious if you're referring to the stock or uhhh aftermarket cable? Sweet cables! interesting. I'd love to fit some leather pads on there... perhaps from that j$ guy or something. I had him make the custom headband for the Choco Donut Mk.II, and he does very nice work. Haven't seen his pads up close, but his work seems to have evolved even more than when I did business with him. I'd just specify that they need to be rather shallow. Tthe T50 sounded the best to me last I heard. Even better than the YH-1000:o across the frequency range except for bass. Though the T50V1 had it in spades and probably in moar quantity than the YH1000...that 3 dimensional bass that the YH-1k had was very special. Then again I would settle for the T50V1 easily Don, what surprised me that they actually stuffed that much glass wool in there for damping. God I'd love to hear the YH-1000 again, especially with the amplification I could provide today!
luvdunhill Posted September 28, 2009 Report Posted September 28, 2009 2. I used a small cable tie which takes up the slack on the inner edge of the cup = I didn't think it would but after test fitting them it was evident that this could be done yay! I had a feeling it would work Now, we need to get them back before Saturday so we can get swt61 comments on the changes as well!
dBel84 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 should go in the mail tomorrow - today was an early start but I should have a breather tomorrow..dB
DefectiveAudioComponent Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 I damped the driver additionally without losing the soundstage ( to my ears ), once Marc has them back and he approves, I will post the specifics of the mod for any interested. Personally I think it takes them to a different level. Bass is not as present as I would have liked but they are not bass shy - using my test tones, they are audible from 25Hz (lowest tone) right up to 20kHz without significant change. Possibly a little roll off between 40Hz and 25Hz but nothing to get excited about. Hey! Wait a minute... you damped them harder to get more bass? What did you do?
swt61 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 should go in the mail tomorrow - today was an early start but I should have a breather tomorrow..dB Priority Mail from Portland should have them there in time, no sweat. I miss Portland.
swt61 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 Hey! Wait a minute... you damped them harder to get more bass? What did you do? Damping the Donuts (YH-1 & YH-100 varieties) had the same effect. At least it turned muddy, sloppy bass into tight, controlled bass.
DefectiveAudioComponent Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 Damping the Donuts (YH-1 & YH-100 varieties) had the same effect. At least it turned muddy, sloppy bass into tight, controlled bass. I don't think the LCD-1 has sloppy or muddy bass. I find it rather on the dry side. You think it needs more control?
dBel84 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 you will soon - looking forward to some feedback..dB
swt61 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 you will soon - looking forward to some feedback..dB I have the β22 back to put it through it's paces. Should be a nice combo.
DefectiveAudioComponent Posted October 1, 2009 Report Posted October 1, 2009 Is the dark stuff in front of the drivers just a thin layer of open cell foam? And perhaps a bass lens would help, since the velours are fairly thin and probably don't keep in the bass too well. The pads themselves aren't the thin spot. The pads don't rest on the baffle, since its recessed, but on the edges of the cups. That's also the point where the pads end and the "skirt" of very thin and flimsy plastic is sewed onto the pads, to go under the baffle. So right there, it's just a thin plastic film sealing to the outside.
mypasswordis Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 :prettyprincess: Sounds promising! Moar impressions necessary (Steve, get in there and back him up asap ). The pads themselves aren't the thin spot. The pads don't rest on the baffle, since its recessed, but on the edges of the cups. That's also the point where the pads end and the "skirt" of very thin and flimsy plastic is sewed onto the pads, to go under the baffle. So right there, it's just a thin plastic film sealing to the outside. It can has be tiem for ugly tape mod? Or you could try lining the insides of the edges with a thin layer of sealing material like blutak, but I don't know how well that'd do mixed in with the velour.
luvdunhill Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 Don: heh, forgot my player cannot play burned discs. oops... For whomever asked the other day, the Muse is: Xilinx CPLD -> DF1704 -> 4 x PCM1704 -> passive filter -> 4 x INA103
swt61 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 :prettyprincess: Sounds promising! Moar impressions necessary (Steve, get in there and back him up asap ). I'll be there tomorrow evening.
dBel84 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 Don: heh, forgot my player cannot play burned discs. oops... I am sure they will find a good home listening ... liking ... phew ..dB
dBel84 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 just when you thought it was safe to play in the woods, along comes little red riding hood to tempt you deeper ..dB
mypasswordis Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 Holy shit that's awesome, except for the headband. Can't wait for impressions + info on cost. I'll be there tomorrow evening. I'm curious as to how they compare to your memory of the Donuts, if you would be so kind as to oblige.
dBel84 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 I quite like the headband - simple lines, looks comfortable and very adjustable. I will be pestering folk at RMAF to go and listen to them ..dB
mypasswordis Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 They didn't look like they'd distribute weight that well at first glance, but you're probably right. Do you know if the pads or drivers are angled in any way?
morphsci Posted October 2, 2009 Report Posted October 2, 2009 Holy shit that's awesome, except for the headband. Can't wait for impressions + info on cost. The enclosures look very nice and hopefully they will sound even better than the LCD-1. The headband is definitely fugly and see some upgrade options with it. Much easier than upgrading the enclosure.
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