faust3d Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Antonio it was meet conditions so I don't want to post much detail, but the KGSS has far better control. The SR-007 was anything, but laid back. A few other attendees thought the same. Was this standard KGSS?
deepak Posted July 17, 2009 Report Posted July 17, 2009 Was this standard KGSS? I don't know. Headamp built.
Currawong Posted July 19, 2009 Report Posted July 19, 2009 If the KGSS can bring out the O2s well, I'll have to consider one in the future. There are some great posts by Elephas here comparing both the HD-800 and O2. I think he describes the differences very well.
pabbi1 Posted July 19, 2009 Report Posted July 19, 2009 I will only (ever) sell my he60 if absolutely forced to... along with the two amps built to drive them. And, even as much as I hate the hev70, that is part of the package. Now, if I could only get the balls to flip the switch on the new stat amp... just too much expense to endure any archy-sparky. Then I'll know how the he60 really compare to the hd800. But, then I have to have a comparable dynamic amp.
spritzer Posted July 19, 2009 Report Posted July 19, 2009 FIRE UP THE VULCAN!!!!! The bad part about Riken resistors is that empty feeling if they were to burn up...
pabbi1 Posted July 19, 2009 Report Posted July 19, 2009 I'm scared, and man enough to admit it... yeah, today, maybe. Would feel so much better if Marc could hands on QC. Riken, Takman, and a few PRP. Not to worry - the grounds have been fixed. Just.hard.to.dew.eet!
arnesto Posted July 19, 2009 Author Report Posted July 19, 2009 Any Stax II model is export so if you were to buy from Japan then they are A models. There is no difference besides the A models only being available in silver and being wired for 100v operation. That can be changed though with a bit of soldering. It's well worth it for the huge savings. What part needs to be modified, is it the headphones or the energiser? Can you just buy the headphone from Japan and an electrostatic headphone amp from Headamp or Wooaudio without having to modify or solder your equipment.
penger Posted July 19, 2009 Report Posted July 19, 2009 If you want a Stax amp from Japan, I believe Craig at Kuboten will modify it to 120V for you if requested.
HeadphoneAddict Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 Antonio it was meet conditions so I don't want to post much detail, but the KGSS has far better control. The SR-007 was anything, but laid back. A few other attendees thought the same. I bought a pair of Blue Hawaii PCB and several of the rare transistors needed, to hopefully build one and see if I like it (with massive help from my friends who can read a schematic). But at a meet in Feb I thought my GES was more musical than Naamanf's DIY KGBH, although his was faster and punchier. I figured I could get this BH built for almost half the cost of a KGSS (based on Naaman's estimate from a year ago). And I wonder if maybe tube rolling in the KGBH could help if needed (not sure I have read about that helping much). But now it sounds like it would be easier to buy a KGSS to compare to my GES, and then sell the one I don't like. I could put the new one on credit card and pay it off by selling one of the two amps or unloading some different amps. What I'm afraid of is that I will like the KGSS with my O2 Mk1 but the GES with everything else, and be stuck wanting to keep both. (this is based on plaidplatypus comments that my GES actually sounded better with Lambdas and other non-O2 phones than his KGSS ever did). I know I liked the KGBHSE at CanJam a lot - but to get one I'd have to sell at a loss my GES, WA6, Sq Wave, Amphora, some IEM like IE8, and maybe either my APS v3 RS-1 or woodied D2000 to get the funds. I could still keep the GES and WA6 if I sold the other stuff for a KGSS instead of KGBHSE. It doesn't make sense to sell any of my electrostatic headphones to pay for a more powerful stat amp because that would be like selling my hair to pay for a blow-dryer.
Icarium Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 I'm scared, and man enough to admit it... yeah, today, maybe. Would feel so much better if Marc could hands on QC. Riken, Takman, and a few PRP. Not to worry - the grounds have been fixed. Just.hard.to.dew.eet! That's the vulcan? I thought it was 16 tubez
pabbi1 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 This is it - Marc should probably discuss it in length, as it is his design.
arnesto Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Posted July 23, 2009 Are there any differences between the older silver Omega II and the newer black Omega II MKII, besides the color? Are there any cheap energizers for the Omega II that are made in the US. So far, I know about the one at HeadAmp.com and at WooAudio. And neither of them are cheap.
padam Posted July 23, 2009 Report Posted July 23, 2009 The answers can be found in the Stax thread. Yes, there are differences and it does matter what amplifier is used.
arnesto Posted July 29, 2009 Author Report Posted July 29, 2009 Ok, this tread has changed my mind. I was planning on ordering the HD800, but after posting this thread and reading everyones opinion. I think it will be wise to get another listen to the Omega II and the HD800. So, I'll have to read up on the Stax tread, but buying an energizer for the Omega II is a little difficult. Because the ones that people seem to like are no longer in production like the Singlepower ES1. The ones that are in production like the HeadAmp is described as being dark and thin or shy on the bass. Thanks for the info. guys because I didn't want through the trial and error process like you guys did.
atothex Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 Because the ones that people seem to like are no longer in production like the Singlepower ES1. The ones that are in production like the HeadAmp is described as being dark and thin or shy on the bass. :palm::palm:
Tachikoma Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 Ok, this tread has changed my mind. I was planning on ordering the HD800, but after posting this thread and reading everyones opinion. I think it will be wise to get another listen to the Omega II and the HD800. So, I'll have to read up on the Stax tread, but buying an energizer for the Omega II is a little difficult. Because the ones that people seem to like are no longer in production like the Singlepower ES1. The ones that are in production like the HeadAmp is described as being dark and thin or shy on the bass. Thanks for the info. guys because I didn't want through the trial and error process like you guys did. That sounds a lot more like a quantum mechanic wavefunction rather than an amp Please don't troll us, if you can help it.
Dreadhead Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 Forgot about this thread. For me the answer is HD800
seacard Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 So far, I have to agree. I've owned both versions of the Omega II and sold them (albeit I've only heard them with the 007t, the 727, and the ES1). The HD800 is a better-sounding headphone and is a keeper. The more interesting question to me is HD800 or HE60 + good amp? There is just something magical about the Baby Orpheus that I can't let go of.
The Monkey Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 Ok, the KGSS DX is in the house. So now I'm listening to the O2 out of that and the HD800 out of the Gilmore Light. Let's just say that so far, the O2 is getting more playing time. The GLite is a very capable amp, but I think the 800 will need the B22 to keep up.
faust3d Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 Ok, the KGSS DX is in the house. So now I'm listening to the O2 out of that and the HD800 out of the Gilmore Light. Let's just say that so far, the O2 is getting more playing time. The GLite is a very capable amp, but I think the 800 will need the B22 to keep up. I wish I could listen to you KGSS DX I never heard one.
Dreadhead Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 My comparison was on a GS-X running SE thought so should be nearly identical to the GS-1. Apparently my now balanced HD800s sound amazing out of a Beta22 as well thought I have to wait until the weekend to hear them out of my GS-X. My ES amp was a brand new KGSS.
matt fury Posted July 29, 2009 Report Posted July 29, 2009 At Canjam I listened a lot to both the O2 and the HD800. Each out of premier amps - the O2 out of THE COOTER & BHSE, HD800 out of TTVJ 307a. For my money, I'd take the the O2 10 times out of 10. Don't get me wrong, the 800 sounded fine...it just didn't excite me. There was no magic there. OTOH, I wanted to have an electrostat amp implanted in my back so I could have the O2 with we everywhere I went for the rest of my life.
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