mirumu Posted August 28, 2009 Report Posted August 28, 2009 I'm still setting everything up as I went with a fresh install. The reviews are quite right saying there's lots of little changes. The new Finder is far speedier although it's still easy enough to get the spinning beachball when working with network directories. This was the weirdest thing I've stumbled across with SL so far. Quote
Dusty Chalk Posted August 28, 2009 Report Posted August 28, 2009 So it's a mixed mode operating system, you can direct it to perform 32-bit or 64-bit operations, at a high level? That's some pretty fucking awesome. Quote
Salt Peanuts Posted August 28, 2009 Report Posted August 28, 2009 Unfortunately, I think I'm going to hold off on SL for a bit since few of my apps appears to be not working properly on SL. Quote
mirumu Posted August 28, 2009 Report Posted August 28, 2009 It appears to be fully mixed mode. By default it will install a 32-bit kernel, but this can still run 64-bit apps. You can install a 64-bit kernel which supposedly is faster, but only specific newer Macs can boot the 64-bit kernel. Unfortunately my MacBookPro2,2 can't. If you run the 64-bit kernel you need 64-bit drivers and apparently some apps do not work. This is why it is not set as the default. When running applications the OS seems to prefer 64-bit versions if they're available. You can force 32-bit as that alert box implied. If I recall correctly there's no limit on architecture of code fragments or how many code fragments a Fat binary can have, so I assume in this case there are separate 64-bit and 32-bit code fragments in the app. For those needing more backwards compatibility Rosetta and Quicktime 7 are install options that are not enabled by default. I'm seeing a lot of talk online about various programs and media files not working, but I'm finding that in many cases they do work if these are installed. Quote
Hopstretch Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Posted August 29, 2009 Main oddity. 10.6 install has nuked all keyboard shortcuts, even system ones. (Command-C etc.) Quote
Voltron Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 (edited) How do I boot from the install disk so I can wipe this Powerbook clean before reinstalling OSX? Edited August 29, 2009 by Voltron Quote
grawk Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 powerbook or macbook? powerbook won't run 10.6 To boot from cd, hold down the option key as you boot, then pick it from the list. Quote
Voltron Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 Powerbook, which will have 10.5 on it. Thanks, couldn't remember the key to hold down. Quote
Sherwood Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 You can also hold down "c" to boot directly to the disc. Quote
mirumu Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 Main oddity. 10.6 install has nuked all keyboard shortcuts, even system ones. (Command-C etc.) Command-C and the other basic shortcuts are working here. Sounds like something's amiss. I'm not a big keyboard shortcut user though so I probably wouldn't notice if the more exotic ones had been changed. Quote
GPH Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 This morning, I walked into a BestBuy where they sell Apple products and asked an employee in the computer section: "Did you receive copies of Snow Leopard yet?". Answer: "Sorry buddy, I don't know what you're talking about." It turned out they didn't have any copies yet, but I'm shocked how uninformed some employees there are. Will go to an Apple store tomorrow. Quote
Hopstretch Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Posted August 29, 2009 Command-C and the other basic shortcuts are working here. Sounds like something's amiss. I'm not a big keyboard shortcut user though so I probably wouldn't notice if the more exotic ones had been changed. It was a 3rd-party program causing the problem. Specifically, 1Password. Quote
The Monkey Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 This morning, I walked into a BestBuy where they sell Apple products and asked an employee in the computer section: "Did you receive copies of Snow Leopard yet?". Answer: "Sorry buddy, I don't know what you're talking about." It turned out they didn't have any copies yet, but I'm shocked how uninformed some employees there are. Will go to an Apple store tomorrow. I don't like it when strangers call me "buddy." Quote
GPH Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 I don't like it when strangers call me "buddy." Yeah, I don't like it either. In fact, it was "mon ami" in French, which is on the same level of familiarity as buddy. Anyway, the guy looked like a dumb non-techie employee who's just there to sell extended warranties so I didn't bother too long with him and went on my own searching for a SL copy. Quote
GPH Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 Just caught this post on another forum, any truth in that or audiophool hallucination? Apple Snow Leopard.. A cheap hi-fi upgrade? ...At least for Intel Mac owners anyway. Having completely sold my soul to Steve Jobs in the last couple of years, I decided to shell out the Quote
Hopstretch Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Posted August 29, 2009 Just caught this post on another forum, any truth in that or audiophool hallucination? Plaaaaaceeeeeebooooo! Quote
Sherwood Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 Ridiculous. I lost whatever program gave me a nice little headphone icon on my status bar, and th new Audio/Midi layout is not entirely to my liking as of yet. Time shall tell, but it's identical (and perfect) to my ears. Quote
Grahame Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 Better yet, run Audio DiffMaker and let us know the results Quote
Sherwood Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 Better yet, run Audio DiffMaker and let us know the results Forgive me if I'm missing something here, but isn't that Windows-only? Quote
Grahame Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 Forgive me if I'm missing something here, but isn't that Windows-only? Yes it is. But its role is the capturing/differencing, rather than the output generated from the mac. This would only be an issue, if you don't have access to a windows based system or a VM to run windows in. Quote
Sherwood Posted August 29, 2009 Report Posted August 29, 2009 This would only be an issue, if you don't have access to a windows based system or a VM to run windows in. Word. I'm pickin' up what you're puttin' down. I'm going to set that rig up, actually -- sounds like fun. Quote
shellylh Posted September 2, 2009 Report Posted September 2, 2009 My family pack of Snow Leopard showed up in the mail today* and I just installed it on my Macbook Pro. Yippee! It seems to be a little faster and I was very happy to get back 14GB of hard drive space. I have been having a lot of problems with Mail not starting properly (i.e. spinning ball of death) when I have a network connection and I am really hoping this will solve that problem. Seems like the added "keyboard viewer" at the top is some indication that a tablet is in the near future. *Actually it seems that I accidentally bought 2 family packs. Now I need to buy 8 more used Macs to install it on. Quote
blessingx Posted September 2, 2009 Report Posted September 2, 2009 shellylh, let us know your Mail upgrade experience. If continued Mail slowness, I'll probably finally jump to Fluid and webapps (mostly Gmail), when I upgrade, but would be nice to know Mail is still an option. Quote
GPH Posted September 2, 2009 Report Posted September 2, 2009 I've had Snow Leopard for two days on my 2007 MacBook, runs perfectly fine and I have not encountered any problems so far. I have yet to install all of my usual apps, so I don't know if everything will work, but I notice an appreciable improvement in speed for all the Apple built-in applications, most notably Finder, Spotlight and Preview. The bootup time is also faster, but my computer is pretty much always open so it doesn't change anything for me. I think it's worth 29$, even though the improvements are not earth shattering, and we might appreciate it more in the future. Quote
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