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[grawk]

I thought they were just about to release a new pro imac

[shellylh]

Yes, in October. 

[grawk]

Everything I read suggests to manufacturing this quarter, and out way sooner than October.

I'd wait until the money's about to run out before I ordered the current imac.

[shellylh]

Ok, I guess I assumed that it would come out at the same time as the new "non-pro" iMacs and people are saying October for that.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/06/imac-xeon-e3-64gb-ram-amd-late-october/

What kind of timeline have you heard?  One where I can get it in my office before June 31? 

My computer is so slow right now that I am using my Macbook almost all the time in the my office.  I suppose I could just hook that up to an external monitor.  I don't want to lose the computer money though. 

[grawk]

That's why I think just hold off as long as you can.  If it gets too close, then the imac you have specced above will still be a rockin' system.

[EdipisReks1]

I would definitely wait.  The current Retina iMac hasn't been updated since its release in 2015, and is really no faster than my late 2013 non-retina machine (which, admittedly, is still a very fast computer).  The Retina you specced would be excellent, but I totally recommend listening to Dan.  Apple is starting to pay more attention to the desktop, and it would be a shame to miss the fruits of that, if it can be helped.  If you have to spend it before then, you'll still have a very good system.  

Also, a 2009 Mac Pro shouldn't be a dog, if it has adequate RAM.  Can you have your IT department take a look at it?

Edited April 10, 2017 by EdipisReks1

[morphsci]

I just ordered my new office iMac so the iMac pro should be released any time now.

[TMoney]

1 hour ago, shellylh said:

My computer is so slow right now that I am using my Macbook almost all the time in the my office.  I suppose I could just hook that up to an external monitor.  I don't want to lose the computer money though. 

New MacBook instead? I have the touch-bar model and, while it certainly has some quirks, it is a fantastic machine.

If you don't need workstation class hardware the MBPs are awfully nice to use.

I use mine attached to an external monitor/keyboard/mouse like so:

[shellylh]

Not interested in getting another laptop.  I'll try hooking up the Macbook I have (which is the current model) to an external monitor for now and waiting for the iMac Pro. 

[EdipisReks1]

15 minutes ago, shellylh said:

Not interested in getting another laptop.  I'll try hooking up the Macbook I have (which is the current model) to an external monitor for now and waiting for the iMac Pro. 

So is talking to the IT department not in the cards?

[shellylh]

No, it was not. 

[EdipisReks1]

ok.

[Dusty Chalk]

What are you going to use it for?  Just browsing and email, or are you going to do actual math on it?

Unrelated:  my sister wants to know about anit-malware on a mac -- any recommendations?  She specifically asked about ClamXav -- does anyone know about that one, or better?  She's certainly literate, but not a power user.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations besides, "quit downloading porn" -- she doesn't.  

[EdipisReks1]

16 minutes ago, Dusty Chalk said:

What are you going to use it for?  Just browsing and email, or are you going to do actual math on it?

Unrelated:  my sister wants to know about anit-malware on a mac -- any recommendations?  She specifically asked about ClamXav -- does anyone know about that one, or better?  She's certainly literate, but not a power user.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations besides, "quit downloading porn" -- she doesn't.  

I have never run any kind of anti-malware or anti-virus on any Mac I've owned, and I've been a Mac guy, and administered Macs, in great numbers, and with very sensitive stuff on them, for years.

[ironbut]

I've been using the free version of Avast for a while and it seems okay.

I also have Malwarebytes and use it when I think there may be something fishy going on right after I download something.

Both of these are more of a security blanket since I can't say I'm sure that either has saved me but they do help a ocd guy like me stop worrying.

 

[EdipisReks1]

6 minutes ago, ironbut said:

I've been using the free version of Avast for a while and it seems okay.

I also have Malwarebytes and use it when I think there may be something fishy going on right after I download something.

Both of these are more of a security blanket since I can't say I'm sure that either has saved me but they do help a ocd guy like me stop worrying.

 

Has either program ever found anything that wasn't a piece of Windows-only malware? 

[ironbut]

Can't say I recall either finding anything but I may be wrong.

[EdipisReks1]

13 minutes ago, ironbut said:

Can't say I recall either finding anything but I may be wrong.

Well, at least they are free.

[Dusty Chalk]

I have never run any kind of anti-malware or anti-virus on any Mac I've owned, and I've been a Mac guy, and administered Macs, in great numbers, and with very sensitive stuff on them, for years.

This is exactly the kind of useless answer I do not want. You realize you're gambling, right? Just because there isn't any malware yet -- and I'm not arguing that you have statistically significant oodles of experience -- doesn't mean there isn't a team of hackers targeting the mac os right now.

I'm not denying it's extremely unlikely, but some people deserve peace of mind, and arguing with them does not accomplish that, you beligerent buffoon. I'm not going to pass along your non-advice.

If you have anything constructive to add, please share. If you are going to get aggressive like you always do about all things mac, stfu.

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[EdipisReks1]

27 minutes ago, Dusty Chalk said:

You realize you're gambling, right? 

There is no gambling, especially with any vaguely recent version of OS X.  Then again, I'm an OS X and UNIX security expert, and I understand how this shit works.  When MolGen brought me on, we quit losing proprietary protein models to the Chinese.  I'm sure that was just a coincidence.

 I'm sorry that being ignorant makes you aggressive, Dusty.  It's not attractive.  I hate to say it, but I'm going to relegate you to Aardvark land.  I didn't even relegate Aardvark there.*

Sure, then you say "Me am programmer!"  "You am programmer" means "you am security risk," in my experience.  Major, major differences between being a programmer and being whatever the fuck I used to be.  I'm a marketer, now, but I had 14 years of not being that.

Break Gatekeeper, Peter.  Come on, you are so smart, programmer.  DO IT.  Teaching users to think before plugging in their password fixes the vast, vast majority of issues in OS X.  But come on. Break it.  

*Of course I'm not doing that, but ask Dan how much anti-virus software he runs on his Macs.  I'm sure he runs lots and lots *nods head.*  I'm sure you'll listen to him.  Asshole.

Edited April 11, 2017 by EdipisReks1

[Dusty Chalk]

And another thing : quit responding to every single post on the subject so that if someone feels like they want to respond to my question they have to go through you.

It's censorship, and you do it every single fucking time, and I will give you a time out if you keep it up.

Fucking chestbeater.

[EdipisReks1]

Give me a time out, Dusty.  I'm sure that will prove you right.  You're the big man now.  Show me how I censor you, Jefe.

Did you ever think that you are the censor?  You sure hate it when you don't know something, but think you do.

I have no power to "do it every single fucking time."  I gave that power up when I fucked up.  I just try to be helpful, these days, and try to not make my client look bad.  I guess I failed there.

Edited April 11, 2017 by EdipisReks1

[EdipisReks1]

I guess my opinion was just awful, and censored people who asked for advice.  I find that article to be extremely conservative, but I'm censoring Dusty, so what the fuck do I know?  I do it every fucking time.  After all, there are hackers right now trying to break into Peter's sister's Mac, as we speak.  We don't know there aren't!  Other people have to go through me, too.  That is the law. 

 

 

Edited April 11, 2017 by EdipisReks1

[Dusty Chalk]

I hate you so much.

How on earth did you get into marketing? You're the least diplomatic person I know.

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[EdipisReks1]

Marketing isn't about being diplomatic.  That's PR.  Marketing is about turning flaws into strengths.  You could learn a lot.  A lot.