Dreadhead Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Was looking over at HF and saw this: Styleaudio's Topaz and Emerald DAC/AMP Sale!! - Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio For optimum performance from your USB source and this DAC, we recommend that you purchase a CryoParts USB cable from Whiplash Audio: USB Cables :palm::palm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPH Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I just asked him what he means by "optimum performance", let's see what he comes up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPH Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Already deleted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Already deleted... nice..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPH Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 nice..... I don't know exactly what is Whisplash Audio, but one thing for sure now is that I will never deal with them. I understand that the sponsored threads are payed for so the manufacturer can do whatever he wants, but it should not be an opportunity to write total BS and get away with it. My question was in no way offensive, juste a simple interrogation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) I just asked him what he means by "optimum performance", let's see what he comes up with. Already deleted... I don't know exactly what is Whisplash Audio, but one thing for sure now is that I will never deal with them. I understand that the sponsored threads are payed for so the manufacturer can do whatever he wants, but it should not be an opportunity to write total BS and get away with it. My question was in no way offensive, juste a simple interrogation. I tried again, let's see what happens. In case it gets deleted this was my post: For optimum performance from your USB source and this DAC, we recommend that you purchase a CryoParts USB cable from Whiplash Audio: ... What exactly are the advantages of the CryoParts USB cable over a standard USB cable? Thanks. Edited April 14, 2009 by morphsci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarium Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Damn... "The headphone driver portion of the Topaz is quite special, utilizing two of the high performance TI/Burr Brown OPA2134 OPAMP's, allowing the Topaz to comfortably drive any headphone from 32ohm to 300ohm. The line ouput section gets the same attention to detail as the rest of the unit and employs two of the Analog Device AD817 OPAMP's, allowing the Topaz to be at home in a high end two channel audio system. Impressively, the Topaz also use four of the TI NE5534 OPAMP's for the I/V section, a testament to their dedication to quality and good sound." So dedicated. So testamented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 they want more than $20 for their top of the line USB cable. unbelievable. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 they want $549 for their top of the line USB cable. unbelievable. Why, you couldn't even get one these, Denon USA | AK-DL1, for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 500$ USB cable on a 500$ amp makes perfect sense to me. And, the "goodness" continues into the DAC section. Is this supposed to be ironic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Carat-Topaz? What an unfortunately named product! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 TI NE5534 OPAMP's for the I/V section, a testament to their dedication to quality and good sound." Quality, as in a part costing a whole dollar!! no way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziguy Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 they want $549 for their top of the line USB cable. unbelievable. Whiplash Audio will be at CanJam. When you come out, you'll be able to ask them about that cable in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Carat-Topaz? What an unfortunately named product! I read it as Carrot Top Ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penger Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I read it as Carrot Top Ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atothex Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Dang, I was at least expecting a little bit of color from that kinda name. Ugly fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeggy Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 BS aside, I think it's a cute little amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPH Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 "We start with our cryo-treated USB cable as seen below and then add two layers of shielding, one of these a being a very trick (read expensive!) carbon fiber based material. We also cut the end back a bit, add some ERS fabric and damp the ends and the junction where the end attaches to the cable. These tweaks, while seeming like they would make be insignificant, to our ears, made quite a difference. Why? Hmmm..." Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 "We start with our cryo-treated USB cable as seen below and then add two layers of shielding, one of these a being a very trick (read expensive!) carbon fiber based material. We also cut the end back a bit, add some ERS fabric and damp the ends and the junction where the end attaches to the cable. These tweaks, while seeming like they would make be insignificant, to our ears, made quite a difference. Why? Hmmm..." Link O.K. I tried again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 1s and 0s are more comfortable in a cooler environment, like Grawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pars Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 From the sound of it they don't actually build their own USB cable (smart move), but modify an existing one that hopefully has the proper impedance control, etc. (would need to research the USB spec to see what this actually is). Typical BS in specing the crystal using a meaningless long term frequency stability figure (ppm) rather than phase noise (jitter). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeggy Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I like my zeros cold, but not my ones, that just doesn't make any sense to freeze both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungi Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 All this USB cable BS aside, I've read some Japanese audio enthusiasts say the Carat Peridot is a good value. The other contender in that category is the iBasso D10 IIRC, can't think of any others at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 inexpensive. right.Yeah, but it "outgrew" "inexpensive". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 1s and 0s are more comfortable in a cooler environment, like Grawk.I like my zeros cold, but not my ones, that just doesn't make any sense to freeze both.You guys really don't understand the cryotreatment, do you? It gets made cold, yes, but by the time you use it, it's warmed up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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