samurai_dota Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 Hi Everyone, after getting advice from Icarium, I think I will skip Esoteric DAC lines. Right now , I have just known the Plantinum DAC III and plan to hunt for a used one. Does anyone know how much it will cost for a used one so i can save enough money for it? any owners, here?? thanks
Dusty Chalk Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 You mean the MSB, right? I think Justin is the only one who's owned one, but that means that a lot of us got to hear it at meets. It's a world class DAC.
Dreadhead Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 Hi Everyone, after getting advice from Icarium, I think I will skip Esoteric DAC lines. Right now , I have just known the Plantinum DAC III and plan to hunt for a used one. Does anyone know how much it will cost for a used one so i can save enough money for it? any owners, here?? thanks Be careful with op-amp based amps since it appears that MSB's DACs do not have any low pass filter on the output and has lots of high frequency noise: Stereophile: MSB Platinum Link Plus D/A processor
samurai_dota Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Posted March 18, 2009 Hi I am sorry for the missing word. It is MSB Plantinum DAC III I am considering it now but don't know its used price to know whether my wallet can survive after buying it or not
samurai_dota Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Posted March 18, 2009 Be careful with op-amp based amps since it appears that MSB's DACs do not have any low pass filter on the output and has lots of high frequency noise: Stereophile: MSB Platinum Link Plus D/A processor thanks for your warning. However, that one isn't the model which i am asking . I am asking about their top of the line MSB Plantinum DAC III. Anyone knows the price range for a used one? thanks
Dusty Chalk Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 Be careful with op-amp based amps since it appears that MSB's DACs do not have any low pass filter on the output and has lots of high frequency noise: Stereophile: MSB Platinum Link Plus D/A processor...which only bats can hear.
Dreadhead Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 ...which only bats can hear. Dusty, I'm not complaining about it for it being audible., but it's ultrasonic noise that can cause some severe problems for certain types of amps (esp. some op-amps). It's also fairly common with DSD as well to the level that dCS talks about it on their web page.
luvdunhill Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 Anyone knows the price range for a used one? depends on the upgrades I'd assume, like the 384kHz options.
Dusty Chalk Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 Dusty, I'm not complaining about it for it being audible., but it's ultrasonic noise that can cause some severe problems for certain types of amps (esp. some op-amps). It's also fairly common with DSD as well to the level that dCS talks about it on their web page.Not arguing with you, the following is a sincere question -- isn't there a natural low-pass filter built into all equipment? I mean, don't they all -- unless they say that their bandwidth extends beyond 20kHz -- limit those upper frequencies somewhat (and when I say somewhat, I mean significantly)? And I'm not saying this as a non-sequitur, I mean to say that it's enough so that it renders this issue moot? I can confirm what you're saying about DSD by the way -- one of the British mags (I forget which one -- either Hi-Fi News or Hi-Fi Choice -- probably whichever one usually does the measurements) was posting an article in almost every issue there for a while about it. But then all the amp failures failed to start showing up (with SACD), so I think they kind of got over it. (I also seem to remember them thinking that it should destroy certain kinds of tweeters, too. Or maybe it was the amp/tweeter combination that destroyed the amp. I don't remember...)
Dreadhead Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 Not arguing with you, the following is a sincere question -- isn't there a natural low-pass filter built into all equipment? I mean, don't they all -- unless they say that their bandwidth extends beyond 20kHz -- limit those upper frequencies somewhat (and when I say somewhat, I mean significantly)? And I'm not saying this as a non-sequitur, I mean to say that it's enough so that it renders this issue moot In short no.
Voltron Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 samurai_dota is wadragon. I know someone on HF said that was true but have you confirmed it?
deepak Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 I know someone on HF said that was true but have you confirmed it? Yes indeed it has.
atothex Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 One of his addresses is my old zip code, too. =)
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