HeadphoneAddict Posted February 7, 2009 Report Posted February 7, 2009 The DA11 pakage includes a couple of good XLR female to RCA female adapters. I say "good" because the quality of such adapters ranges from poor to good. The specifications of the unit are met with the adapters in place. The DA11 lets you set unbalanced Pin 2 hot, unbalanced Pin 3 hot or balanced operation. The settings are controlled from the front pannel, so there is not need to open the chassis and set jumpers. Other headphone related improvments (relative to DA10) are: 1. One can turn off the rear pannel signals, so the only active analog outout is the headphone. This is also controlled from the front panel. 2. There is a circuit that eliminates the "loud clicks" that take place during power up and power down (turnning the unit on and off). The DA10 has a power up "click protection", but not power down. The DA11 has both power up and power down protection. The idea is to protect the ears. At very high volume, one can still hear a tiny power down click, but at much lower volume then the music. Without any protection, the click is huge. I am in the habit of removing the headphones prior to power down... And of course, the >PiC< (Playback image control) is very much oriented to headphone. Almost all of the music material is produced by monitoring through speakers, and the PiC enables the headphone listen to a stereo image closer to what was intended by the mixing and mastering people. Regards Dan Lavry I appreciate the response, but it still doesn't solve the problem of using the same DAC for two amps - the balanced dynamic rig and SE electrostatic rig without using RCA loop out on the balanced amp. I can use the XLR out of my Apogee into the balanced amp, and the 1/8" line out with mini-RCA into the electrostatic rig at the same time.
HeadphoneAddict Posted February 7, 2009 Report Posted February 7, 2009 ^^How many heads do you have? Two, if you count the one that does all the thinking. It doesn't want to pull out the DAC everytime I switch amps.
Smeggy Posted February 9, 2009 Report Posted February 9, 2009 Hi Voltron, Thanks for your comments. I will look up the date for the big meet. The next few month are very busy for me, some of it is about meetings and conventions, but I will try to make it. It is not too far from Seattle... Regards Dan Lavry Wait, you're in Seattle? Oh, just looked it up, Bainbridge island. I'm just down near Boeing field.
Elephas Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 Seems nice, but I don't think I'm ready to upgrade from the DA10 yet. Now, if it was a newer version Gold DA2002... I heard the Lavry Gold once, and I remember it as a supremely sublime experience. Amp was a Graham Slee Solo and headphones was HD650 with stock cable (!). The sound was superb. I've never gotten the HD650 to sound quite like that experience, with a Zana Deux or Lehmann BCL, Equinox cable, and my Accuphase or Esoteric sources. Either the Graham Slee Solo is an extra special amp or the Gold is a special source.
Dan Lavry Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 Seems nice, but I don't think I'm ready to upgrade from the DA10 yet. Now, if it was a newer version Gold DA2002... I heard the Lavry Gold once, and I remember it as a supremely sublime experience.... The DA11 has a new feature - the >PiC< - which stands for Playback image control You can see a description of what it is at my Lavry Engineering site: Lavry Engineering :: View topic - DA11 >PiC< : Playback Input Control - a new featur Regards Dan Lavry
HeadphoneAddict Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 The DA11 has a new feature - the >PiC< - which stands for Playback image control You can see a description of what it is at my Lavry Engineering site: Lavry Engineering :: View topic - DA11 >PiC< : Playback Input Control - a new featur Regards Dan Lavry Hey Dan, how would you like to trade a Lavry DA11 review sample for my mint condition Ultrasone Edition 9 #440 with 6-foot APS V3 cable with 1/8" plug and extra pair of chrome housings, with flight case and Ultrasone CD and 1/4 adapter? kinda serious here, although I don't expect you to do it but I just had to ask anyways, because one never knows what might happen. Then I can do a review of it before I set my Apogee mini-DAC off to the side as a spare. I've already posted that I liked the DA10 better than the Apogee, but I only spent one afternoon with it when plaidplatypus brought it over to play.
grawk Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 The drawback being most of the people here would then write off said review as being a horrible shill.
HeadphoneAddict Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 The drawback being most of the people here would then write off said review as being a horrible shill. Ouch. Why, if I am out $1600 for Edition 9, re-cable and spare parts its not like getting the DA11 for free? Not that I expect him to take me up on a silly but serious offer.
morphsci Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 Ouch. Why, if I am out $1600 for Edition 9, re-cable and spare parts its not like getting the DA11 for free? Not that I expect him to take me up on a silly but serious offer. Well if you have to ask, that pretty much says it all.
HeadphoneAddict Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 So, you are saying that if I trade my stuff for a DA11 then I am not an impartial party and I am working for the company to hawk the product while claiming that I have no financial interest in the product. But if I sell my stuff and buy a DA11 that changes everything? It's not like he could take take the DA11 back once it's mine, so I could say any bad thing I wanted about it if it were true. Besides, I said I didn't seriously expect to be taken up on the offer. Anyways, I'll likely sell the Edition 9 and then use the money for my HD800 in 2 weeks, so it's moot point anyways. The DA11 will probably be next in line to purchase, unless I am really hurting for money and have to get a Stello DA100 Signature instead. But I'd rather wait as the DA11's "PIC" appeals to me, and I liked the HP out of the DA10 a lot too. For feeding multiple amps I would just have to get an XLR switch box or distribution center, or feed the XLR into my SP amp and use the RCA to loop out into my Woo GES.
luvdunhill Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 So, you are saying that if I trade my stuff for a DA11 then I am not an impartial party and I am working for the company to hawk the product while claiming that I have no financial interest in the product. yes But if I sell my stuff and buy a DA11 that changes everything? no
luvdunhill Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 Then I can do a review of it before I set my Apogee mini-DAC off to the side as a spare. I've already posted that I liked the DA10 better than the Apogee, but I only spent one afternoon with it when plaidplatypus brought it over to play. What? I think Grawk was getting at the fact that no matter what you do and when you do it, you've already really injured your credibility by making the statement above directly to the vendor which you'd be reviewing.
grawk Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 yes yes that is the correct interpretation of my comments.
HeadphoneAddict Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 Sometimes I hate this place. You guys just freaking pick apart every little thing I say, and find hidden meaning in it and ulterior motives that don't exist, just to puff up your chests and feel superior. I feel sorry for you all.
HeadphoneAddict Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 I wrote these positive comments back in November 2008, without being a Shill. 11/9/08 - mini-meet with plaidplatypus at my crib - MD5000DE, Stax - Koss ESP950 - HE60, ATH-A900 vs D2000 - Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio I think one of the first things that we discovered was that my Apogee mini-DAC was contributing to the excessively forward mids of the Stax O2 Mk2. I've never felt the Apogee had that problem with any other headphones or amps, but the forward mids are a known problem with the Stax O2 Mk2. I have done the ear-pad spring mod which helps pull back the honky mids a bit, but we found that switching to the Lavry DA10 as the source pulled them back slightly more and made them less fatiguing. I was truly enjoying the O2 Mk2 more than I had previously. I also felt the Lavry DA10 gave them slightly more extended bass, which is the second problem with the O2 Mk2 since Stax introduced the anti-fart bass port in that version. Lastly, the Lavry has a very nice headphone out, but I thought the Apogee was slightly better, and the EF1 was another notch above that. Still, if no headphone amp is available, it's great to be able to use the Lavry or Apogee as a headphone amp that is still better than that in most audio video receivers. Now, the DA10 only has XLR out but not RCA out, so we used the Single Power XLR input and RCA loop out to then feed the GES which has single ended RCA inputs. In previous testing I have found the Single Power to have minimal impact on the sound quality of the RCA loop out. So, we left the Lavry hooked up for most of the meet, except for a brief stint with the CD transport and DAC-AH. I had NO financial interest or obligations to Lavry back then, and what I said about the DA10 in this thread were documented as being my thoughts long ago. I was not making things up in my recent posts just to get favors from Dan 3 months later. I was telling the truth about what I thought about it.
Beefy Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 I feel sorry for you all. Don't be sorry. The feeling of superiority they get is GREAT!
hungrych Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Sometimes I hate this place. You guys just freaking pick apart every little thing I say, and find hidden meaning in it and ulterior motives that don't exist, just to puff up your chests and feel superior. I feel sorry for you all.
HeadphoneAddict Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 That's just it - people here are allowed to attack, and the recipient is expected to just take it up the butt. And, then everyone feels free to ignore the important post just below the complaint, so the thread gets totally derailed.
HeadphoneAddict Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 feel free to never come back. Then what will all the predators do without prey?
grawk Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 The funny thing is there's lots of good conversation here. It's only when people who don't pay attention to what we're about show up and think it's just part of some other forum that things get boring.
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