blubliss Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Posted January 19, 2009 OK, I cleaned them up a little today. Still plenty to be done but they look better. Those three screws holding things down would not budge and i didn't want to strip them. I think I'll let Alex do the rest. How do you like the wiring job on the left one?
Voltron Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Nice work Andy. Not nice work to whoever worked on that wiring.
purk Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Nice work Andy. Hope you will get your R10s sort out soon!
zippy2001 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Andy, best of luck with getting them back to good working condition. Those before pictures are really scary, I'd hate to open a pair of headphones and find that mess, especially a pair of R10s. It looks like you've done a good job with the initial cleanup.
jp11801 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Andy best of luck on getting these totally restored, you did a great job initially cleaning them up. I'd be completely freaked out with solvent so close to $5000+ headphones but I guess there was not really a choice. Kudos to Alex for stepping up again.
blubliss Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Posted January 19, 2009 Yeah, I was nervous, but they still work . They definitely need some foam in there to sound right again.
GPH Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Are R10 drivers still available in case something fails or it's completely out of stock? Very good job on the cleaning part BTW, it takes some guts to play inside a 4000$ headphone like that.
Torpedo Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Congratulations Andy, you did a great job cleaning them. If it weren't for the cable and urethane issues, you could stick a new set of pads on them right now
purk Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Are R10 drivers still available in case something fails or it's completely out of stock? Very good job on the cleaning part BTW, it takes some guts to play inside a 4000$ headphone like that. Not any more. The urethane rings are also no longer available. I tried ordering those parts from Sony and partstore without any success.
Torpedo Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Denon phones use a foam ring around the driver which maybe has the same sonic properties and is about the same size as the orange one into the R10. It's gray though. The bigger ring in between the circular metal frame and the wooden cup will be harder to find. The problem with these phones are the pads, weren't they glued, doing some experiments with different materials would be way easier.
Tachikoma Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 If you own an R10 always keep it at room temperature and away from humidity. This will destroy your headphone!!! Heh, glad I never had the money to get one Its hard to get away from humidity when the whole country is humid.
deepak Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 If you were earwicker I would have suggested a dehumidifier chamber
Icarium Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Heh, glad I never had the money to get one Its hard to get away from humidity when the whole country is humid. Humidity is pretty much bad for all headphones and electronics in general
Tachikoma Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Humidity is pretty much bad for all headphones and electronics in general Back-end electronics do just fine around here, but I do worry about my electrostats.
milkpowder Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 That's quite some clean-up. Well done!
Fing Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 My first pair of R10 looked a bit like that. The foam was really horrible and I'm very glad I managed to get some replacement foam before it all ran out. Time & humidity will affect the foam and eventually DIY replacements will have to be used. The inner yellow foam surrounding the driver (that turns red after time) is very soft and fairly dense. I've not seen other foam like it but it's almost like memory foam but lighter. Very small holes and squeezy. The outer foam ring that sits between the wooden cups and the metal headband assembly (behind where the screws attach) are grey and slightly more resistant to deterioration but they do also go crumbly and shrink. Ridiculous that such an expensive headphone is made with such perishable parts, but we are talking many, many years for this to happen My R10's currently live in my air-conditioned office where it's a constant 20-22C and minimal humidity.
RockCity Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Well, considering Sony also used these "biocellulose" diaphragms, the whole thing will practically recycle itself given enough time- wood and all. I think the key to every company is to create a perishable product with planned obsolescence. amirite?
swt61 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Wow, great job on the cleanup Andy! I think letting Alex take it from there is a good decision. The man does awesome work.
jinp6301 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 You posted the question that I posted before I did. so you win? or thats how it works in my head, or something. I can't think so well after someone hit me on the head with a shovel.
Dusty Chalk Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 I'm feeling like that, too. And: go back and look, it was indeed a different "Dusty" (though I don't think Salt Peanuts goes by that).
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