swt61 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 I got home from work to find a box from the UK on my desk. Yippie! I hooked up the pig tail to my amps speaker taps, and plugged the 4 pin socket of the K1000 into that. Turned on my Beta22 and no sound. Hmmm let's see now, the amp seems to be working fine, the speaker adapter is hooked up right, what's missing? Oh yeah, maybe it's that thing that spins CDs that I just shipped out yesterday! My phono stage still has hum issues with my SUT, and the temporary phono stage I was using went tits up. So maybe selling my CD transport would have been better delayed a week or so. Well the new CDP is due to arrive Saturday. It's gonna be an eternity.
Salt Peanuts Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Glad to here you've finally received them! Suck you can't listen to them, though.
Salt Peanuts Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 I did actually try K1000 out of my iPod once. Nor surprisingly, it didn't work.
GPH Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 No iPod with mini-RCA adapter? It's a shitty source, but I'm surviving with mine right now until I receive the Pico.
Smeggy Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Yeah, shit, even a wind up record player will do for now. C'mon Stave, where's your sense of adventure. Leaving them in the box is not an option, get that ipud cranking
swt61 Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Posted December 30, 2008 I actually got my iPod Classic, and used an LOD w/mini phono, plugged the mini phono into a 1/4" phono adaptor, plugged the 1/4" phono adaptor into a 1/4" phono to two XLR adaptor, and plugged the two XLR plugs into my Beta22 input. Not surprisingly it was all but unlistenable. Too many adaptors and a far less than ideal source. Is it Saturday yet?
deepak Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Take some pics of you wearing them in the mean time
Blackmore Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Yeah, cos only then you are officially an alien:cool: Take some pics of you wearing them in the mean time
luvdunhill Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 geez Steve that sucks. Somehow I feel personally responsible... just ship them to me here in China and I'll see what I can do I bet the Millet portable can drive them just fine
swt61 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Posted December 31, 2008 Take some pics of you wearing them in the mean time Yeah, cos only then you are officially an alien:cool: Need to shave first. geez Steve that sucks. Somehow I feel personally responsible... just ship them to me here in China and I'll see what I can do I bet the Millet portable can drive them just fine Uh huh, yeah right.
Dusty Chalk Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 I actually got my iPod Classic, and used an LOD w/mini phono, plugged the mini phono into a 1/4" phono adaptor, plugged the 1/4" phono adaptor into a 1/4" phono to two XLR adaptor, and plugged the two XLR plugs into my Beta22 input. Not surprisingly it was all but unlistenable. Too many adaptors and a far less than ideal source.No, that sounds about right. You should sell them... ...to me.
swt61 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Posted December 31, 2008 OK, I found a mini phono-dual RCA adapter. I'm running it straight out of the iPod headphone out, since my LOD seems to have a short. This is connected to an RCA input on my Consonance integrated amp, with the K1000 being driven from the speaker taps. It's not the optimal setup, but I'm finally getting a pretty clean sound. Sadly I'm starting to think I'm having some issues with the Beta22, but I'll know better once the CDP arrives. This is my first experience with the K1000 other than meet settings. It's too early for any firm impressions, and I'll need a much better source before any serious listening. That said however, I'm really loving the soundstage here. The bass is not that bad either. No worries there though, as I have two Onix UFW-10 subs that I could patch into the system once I get things worked out. The seller told me that the K1000 was way to sterile for him. He felt they weren't very musical. That had me a bit concerned, as I favor musicality over technical attributes most of the time. He said he much prefered the HD600. I own modded HD580s (basically the same phone) that I quite like, but even early on I can say without a doubt that I wouldn't qualify the K1000 as sterile and non musical. It's a very different presentation to be sure, but wholey enjoyable and musical to my ears. Can't wait 'til Saturday!
Smeggy Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 Indeed, not sterile to my ears. They're very good sounding, fast, detailed and a very good overall balance. I don't know where they got this 'sterile/metallic' label from. Maybe they just had bad gear mismatches, mine sound fucking sweet and I'd rather listen to a K1K from my DAP than a 580/600 from a top end setup. Good luck with the B22, hopefully it's not fucked up in any expensive way.
Fitz Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 That said however, I'm really loving the soundstage here. Blargh, lucky bastard, it took me for-feckin-ever to find the two positions where I got great soundstage out of them. Anywhere else and it did weird things with the center of the soundstage for me. And the K1000 is definitely not sterile sounding... maybe if you play some dull music that has no soul to it then they'll sound that way, but not normally.
swt61 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Posted December 31, 2008 Indeed, not sterile to my ears. They're very good sounding, fast, detailed and a very good overall balance. I don't know where they got this 'sterile/metallic' label from. Maybe they just had bad gear mismatches, mine sound fucking sweet and I'd rather listen to a K1K from my DAP than a 580/600 from a top end setup. Good luck with the B22, hopefully it's not fucked up in any expensive way. Agreed, even with an iPod it's pretty damn impressive so far. Alison Krauss is always the deciding factor on new headphones for me, and she's sounding amazing. Vocals are just beautiful, maybe he listens to techno or something. I'll have to ask him about his music preferences. I'll know more about the Beta22 soon enough, but I've already been considering a recase at the least, So it's not a big concern, and I doubt it's a major issue.
swt61 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Posted December 31, 2008 Blargh, lucky bastard, it took me for-feckin-ever to find the two positions where I got great soundstage out of them. Anywhere else and it did weird things with the center of the soundstage for me. May I ask where those settings are? I seem to be prefering somewhere near the midpoint ATM. That may change with a better source, I'm not sure.
Fitz Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 It depends on the kind of music, but I generally use them either nearly fully extended (unamped / acoustic) or what I think is about a third of the way out (amped / studio). I adjust them by feel with them on my head, so I'm not really sure on the exact positioning.
Blackmore Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 Sterile my ass, only if you feed them wrongly...Some people just dont understand that these are speaker amp driving ear speakers, done. I tried them from out of several amps, but only the A class speaker apm, maybe tubes would be better, will give them what they really need, imo. Their requirements are like 10w pch, dont need more. I never had a chance to tried them from any A class, or else, tube speaker amp, but man, even from out of TrendsAudio T 10.1 they sound more than just acceptable, imo. This T amp is a killer and I can only imagine about his performences if you mod this monster...
deepak Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 I used to think my tube pre/Aleph 30/K1000 was tits until I heard them on my friend's ECC99/300B/Lundahl monoblocks. Yummmm sound.
Knuckledragger Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 Silly question, but do you K1000 owners use a mirror when you're adjusting the speaker positions? In my one experience with K1Ks, I found it hard to make meaningful adjustments without being able to see the relative positions. This was many years ago, in an upscale audio shop. I used the the chrome front of a blinged out Krell to see what I was doing. Spearit Sound didn't see fit to install vanity mirrors in their listening room.
Duggeh Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 I take them off, judge by eye, then put them back on. Though most of the time so far I've listened on full toe-out or with a tiny bit of toe out so that the inner grille doesn't touch my ear. And Steve, havent you got a neighbour you can steal a CD player from? Get that balaclava out.
Blackmore Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 I used my fingers, to put them between the speakers and my ears, if that make any sense:palm: Then just checked visualy as well... Anyhow, it worked for me, cos used them slightly open, most of the time, and just sometimes wide open, but found it to distand and lacking at low end.
Smeggy Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 I do a finger adjustment too, my fave position is first index finger knuckle width from my ear flap to cage when the finger is inserted from behind as I grasp the cage. Very quick and easily repeatable. Takes all of about 3 seconds per side and very accurate.
diebenkorn Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 Is it true the K1000 is uncomfortable to wear?
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