909 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Posted October 22, 2008 nothing set in stone, but it seemed something in the 3K range. i didn't see any gaming only just using it as a dvd player to demo their set-up.
zippy2001 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Posted October 22, 2008 Did they mention how much it was going to cost? I noticed they had it setup with an Xbox 360. Did anyone try it with games? I didn't play any games with it, but he did mention that it is great with games, giving you the full surround sound effects.
Augsburger Posted October 22, 2008 Report Posted October 22, 2008 The X box was just there to serve as the source. Steven Smyth confirmed that the price was $3,000 which includes the Stax HPs.
penger Posted October 22, 2008 Report Posted October 22, 2008 Excuse my ignorance, but does it only work with Stax? Or do you just need to processor, etc.?
909 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Posted October 22, 2008 they were willing to measure and let me use my L3000s, but time permitting and the number of people waiting to hear it, i decided against it.
LFF Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 Excuse my ignorance, but does it only work with Stax? Or do you just need to processor, etc.? It works with any headphone set. He did state that he will only sell the first 1000 units with the stax headphones though.
909 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 wonder, if he's already got 1000 stax headphones. \ makes no sense to limit the pool of potential customers as some may not want those cans or even already own them
grawk Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 Seems like it does make sense, because he had to commit to something to develop his standard on. It's a known platform to base his product on.
Fungi Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 I think the reasoning was that they wanted the user to hear what the system could do, not limited by puny headphones.
909 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 you both make decent points -- possibly, but still if someone is willing to pay $3K on a headphone surround sounding system (which I don't know if it includes the headphones) is probably more likely than not to have some seriously decent headphones already or possibly even own those particular headphones. the 1000 number still seems artificial and a bit contrived to me especially since they aren't going to require buyer 1001 (assuming they sell that many) to have to buy the package. imo, limiting potential customers is a mistake and even more so with a new product. and heck, the product is already limited enough in that it only works with 5.1 productions/recordings.
Iron_Dreamer Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 Not too much to say about the meet that hasn't been said. I still can't believe that 909 managed to wrestle the HD2 away from numbers. It looks like a great venue, and I'm sure that CJ09 is going to be quite spectacular indeed. Pics! Many CD's available to choose from as free door prizes! Blubliss had to start setting up his monster rig early: Which included this most unusual tube... which was only part of the active cable shielding system!!! Frank Cooter also came packing a truckload of towering amps: Smyth Research brought in a bevy of their specialized surround technology What could Ray Samuels possibly have under the veil driving those R10's? Why it's his teensiest amp yet, the Mustang, packing a punch! It was a busy day, so asr had to pull double-duty! While a pair of funky headphones, and no Al (voltron) made JP Nums a bit blue! Eddie Current was well represented, from a duo of Zana Duex: to a Moth Audio classic: and a new amp, coming soon: The DIY table sat empty and alone for most of the day... ...until Edwood decided to reterminate Numbers' AD2000... ...which became a more involved cable surgery than first anticipated There was also a fine looking Darkvoice: Which was amazingly sourced from this hapazard pile of parts spread across two UCLA cafeteria trays: Eventually, time came to tear down the mighty rigs!
909 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 I still can't believe that 909 managed to wrestle the HD2 away from numbers. ditto
F1GTR Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 Totally no idea what I want.. but probably the Balancing Act unless somehow the AD1 shows it will just smoke the 307A. AD1? Is that the alpha code designation for the Aficionado, or another amp altogether?
tyrion Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 AD1? Is that the alpha code designation for the Aficionado, or another amp altogether? It's the tube used in the Aficionado.
909 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 AD1-Mesh Datasheet. Emission Labs. 22.2.08
n_maher Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 Yikes! Quick research puts those tube in the "pricey" category at ~$500/pr.
909 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 approximately $699 plus shipping. finding nos or even still testing strong can be even more costly and due to rarity is exceedingly difficult just to find.
909 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 i thought the same thing. here's another concern... how long will the emission labs last as they are only under warranty for one year or 2000 hours, whatever comes first and it does not cover low hum of aging.
jp11801 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 while the AD1 is on the expensive side it is still in the same range as the best new production 300bs like WE or KR at $500-800 a pair. I am sure that Craig can sell a pair or two to amp buyers at his dealer discount. Which would probably put you at $500. So this is not so far out there when you consider that David in your 2a3 amp you had well over that in tubes with the rectifier and driver. As long as I got 2 years of heavy use out of a pair I would consider that to be worth it of the amp was Craig at his best, which I strongly believe this amp will be. Oh and yes it was a bitter sweet gathering for me as I said farewell to the HD2. While this was by far the best amp I have ever owned I am in a downsizing trend and find myself listening more to speakers when I listen. Believe it or not the amp in the Berendsen is actually not too far off the mark and I have a Stacker ll amp being built. I commissioned the Stacker ll prior to considering the sale of the HD2 but $$ trouble got the best of me, don't get old fellas.
grawk Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 Wonder why he's choosing such a pricey tube to base a new amp on
jp11801 Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 Wonder why he's choosing such a pricey tube to base a new amp on he thinks very highly of this tube over and above the 6c33bs, 307as, 300b...
n_maher Posted October 23, 2008 Report Posted October 23, 2008 Without doing a lick of research my primary concern, outside of the cost of the tube would be the single source (1 manufacturer) aspect. I mean, EML is probably not going to go away any time soon but I never like having to rely on their only being one source for anything.
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