crappyjones123 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 i think im going to sell the beta and get this. bet it sounds much better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killercrush Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 It's a '' modified '' Mini^3 ... hence the Double M3 name (MM3). Damn, he did it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinp6301 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 ultra why does he call it a m^3 when its a mini^3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPH Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 ultra why does he call it a m^3 when its a mini^3? Yeah, that bothers me. I've owned both M^3 and Mini^3 and it's pretty hard to mistake one for the other. In fact, if Ken built the amp himself by following AMB's schematics where the name of the amp is clearly written, how the hell can use the wrong name now? Maybe it's a tactic to make people believe it's a better amp that what it really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killercrush Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Price : below $300 and above $275. WHAT A COMPLETE RIP-OFF !!! Well I guess it follows that long-time ALO tradition. It's a blessing we have Rockhopper Audio as a decent alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungi Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Hooray for capacitor upgrades! Totally worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFKMan23 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Yes, this amp is a Mini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filburt Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I'm not sure what else can be said other than I'm not surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Well it's officially a Mini3. And I totally reversed my opinion on Ken. The guy is Harry fucking Houdini because he managed to cram $200 worth of upgraded caps in Mini3. And to make it even more amazing the Mini3 is a DC coupled amp without any caps in the signal path to begin with. With the help of his side kick Vinne of course. Brilliant! But don't complain about the price. The Aristocrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I weep for the rape of DIY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrice Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Price : below $300 and above $275. WHAT A COMPLETE RIP-OFF !!! Well I guess it follows that long-time ALO tradition. It's a blessing we have Rockhopper Audio as a decent alternative. Hooray for capacitor upgrades! Totally worth it! Well it's officially a Mini3. And I totally reversed my opinion on Ken. The guy is Harry fucking Houdini because he managed to cram $200 worth of upgraded caps in Mini3. And to make it even more amazing the Mini3 is a DC coupled amp without any caps in the signal path to begin with. With the help of his side kick Vinne of course. Brilliant! But don't complain about the price. The Aristocrats. All I had to do was add "boutique caps" MOTHER FUCKER!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 up until now, we really haven't seen the "not for commercial use" phrase abused (in the headphone DIY realm). Now we have. I wonder what repercussions this will have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pars Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Well, unfortunately Amb seems to be aware and supportive in this case (he posted in the thread). That was my biggest concern that ALO had just "appropriated" the design, much as a certain other manufacturer seems to. And do you really think that KB built this? Upgraded caps? There are only 5 electrolytics and 6 ceramics or possibly film caps in a mini3. Oh, maybe his version is no longer DC coupled, cuz ya know a boutique cap in the signal path is pure win... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I'm not really sure how exotic they could have gone with caps given the extreme space constraints of the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I'm not really sure how exotic they could have gone with caps given the extreme space constraints of the case. Unless of course they used lower value parts. But they will be like BGs and stuff:palm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Unless of course they used lower value parts. But they will be like BGs and stuff:palm: I can't wait to see the bent-cap-lead gymnastics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 obviously you guys haven't heard cryo'ed ceramics.... duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cankin Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Well, unfortunately Amb seems to be aware and supportive in this case (he posted in the thread). That was my biggest concern that ALO had just "appropriated" the design, much as a certain other manufacturer seems to. And do you really think that KB built this? Upgraded caps? There are only 5 electrolytics and 6 ceramics or possibly film caps in a mini3. Oh, maybe his version is no longer DC coupled, cuz ya know a boutique cap in the signal path is pure win... I thought Amb just made things clear by stating Mini^3 and M^3 are different amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFKMan23 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 At least it should be easy enough to implement those changes on their own amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pars Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I thought Amb just made things clear by stating Mini^3 and M^3 are different amps. HI all, <snip> I had no intentions of not claiming that the amp is indeed a M3 board and design, hence the name of the amp. I had the help of Vinnie Rossi (Red Wine Audio) with the amp, he helped me with the mod for the amp with the approval of Ti Kan (AMB Laboratories DIY Audio Site). <snip> Amb didn't seem to object, and Ken indicated he had his approval? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinp6301 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 It seems like Amb ok-ed the project before hand. Still, 300 bucks for a mini^3 is just crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cankin Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Yeah, even a balanced mini^3 is about $300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 It seems like Amb ok-ed the project before hand. Still, 300 bucks for a mini^3 is just crazy What makes you say that? Granted, I think his chassis lacks creativity but generally speaking if he offers warranty and other customer support associated with the sale that price is pretty easily justified. I'd stack that amp up against just about anything in the sub $500 bracket and expect it to hold its own. At least from a design perspective I can't fault ALO for seeking out Ti, but he may quickly discover the DIY-ain't-worth-a-damn paradigm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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