guzziguy Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I have an older B&D 14.4V Fire Storm cordless drill. This drill has 2 speed ranges and a wide range of torque settings. i really like it except for one minor problem. after many years of light use, i tried to use it only to find that both batteries are toast and that the charger puts out nothing. A quick search of the web shows that this is not an uncommon problem with these batteries and charger. I searched the web again and it looks like 2 replacement batteries and a charger would be at least $80. It occurs to me that I might be able to get an entire drill kit for not much more than that. So can anybody recommend a drill kit with similar features in the $80 to $140 range? I'm a fairly light user so not need a heavy duty monster. I would like something that is more reliable than the B&D has been. Thanks in advance for your responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 First off I would make sure what ever you get has either Ni-Mh or LiPo batteries. I have a couple Hitachi cordless drills that I really like. One was not cheap but the other came in a kit with a cordless screwdriver and flashlight and was in your price range. DeWalts (Black&Decker) are also pretty popular. Go to your local HD/Lowes and get a feel for what they have. If you go with a name brand that has the feel/features/look/cost you want you should be happy for a long time. Or at least until the batteries become useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I own a dewalt 24v drill that is great, but it's expensive and heavy. I've used a ryobi that I like a lot, that is a lot lighter, and still generally gets the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziguy Posted September 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 First off I would make sure what ever you get has either Ni-Mh or LiPo batteries. I have a couple Hitachi cordless drills that I really like. One was not cheap but the other came in a kit with a cordless screwdriver and flashlight and was in your price range. DeWalts (Black&Decker) are also pretty popular. Go to your local HD/Lowes and get a feel for what they have. If you go with a name brand that has the feel/features/look/cost you want you should be happy for a long time. Or at least until the batteries become useless. I just found this Hitachi. It has all the features I like on my Firestorm plus it has lithium ion batteries, and is the same price as 2 batteries and a charger would be. Any reason I shouldn't just pull the trigger on this? Edit: Shipping would be $14.59, so unless a red flag appears soon, I'm going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I've been beating the bag out of my Makita for the last 5 years and it still works great. Personally, anything bigger than 12 or 14.4V is absurd unless you're a contractor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I've been beating the bag out of my Makita for the last 5 years and it still works great. Personally, anything bigger than 12 or 14.4V is absurd unless you're a contractor. Unless you're building a deck, or a shed, or fixing your fence, or .... Oh and I have several cordless drills but the one I like best is a relatively new model by Ridgid that uses Li-Poly batteries. I really like the Ridgid cordless drills as they have a lifetime warranty on their batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziguy Posted September 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Unless you're building a deck, or a shed, or fixing your fence, or .... Oh and I have several cordless drills but the one I like best is a relatively new model by Ridgid that uses Li-Poly batteries. I really like the Ridgid cordless drills as they have a lifetime warranty on their batteries. Thanks for the suggestion. I checked out Ridgid but the cost for Li-Poly battery versions is significantly higher than the Hitachi I'm looking at. As I said, I'm a fairly light user of cordless drills and think the Hitachi will do what I need. If I find I need a heavier duty drill, I'll take another look at the 18V Ridgid. I just ordered the Hitachi. Would anybody like a 14.4V B&D Fire Storm drill? I'll be happy to pass it on for the cost of shipping. Of course, you pretty much need to have working batteries for this deal to make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Unless you're building a deck, or a shed, or fixing your fence, or ....Uh.... #1 - check #2 - check 14.4V has been fine for me for both projects not to mention numerous others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
en480c4 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Uh.... #1 - check #2 - check 14.4V has been fine for me for both projects not to mention numerous others. Hahahahahahahaha!!! Not to mention lots of pre-drill press early DIY casework! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordgtlover Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I know that you've already pulled the trigger on your purchase, but I'd throw a vote of confidence in for a Hitachi. They are nice drills to use and the batteries hold their charge well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krrm Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 and fix your fence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 14.4V has been fine for me for both projects not to mention numerous others. Well that is good for you. Unfortunately my experience does not coincide with yours. The 14.4 V drills I have used in the past (mainly a B & D and a Porter cable) have not had the battery life nor more importantly the torque to take the drudgery out of the bigger long-term projects. So although not a contracter, I consider a good 18V+ cordless drill an extremely important tool for my own personal sanity and not even remotely absurd. BTW, nice deck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 The problem with my dewalt is it will sheer the heads off screws instead of driving them sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Sounds like you need better screws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
en480c4 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Well that is good for you. Unfortunately my experience does not coincide with yours. The 14.4 V drills I have used in the past (mainly a B & D and a Porter cable) have not had the battery life nor more importantly the torque to take the drudgery out of the bigger long-term projects. Well, there's your problem right there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Well, there's your problem right there... Maybe the B & D (but I have been relatively satisfied with most of the B & D tools I have used over the years) but not the Porter Cable. I have a B & D 18 V that I am very satisfied with, it generally does as good a job as the Ridgid. The Ridgid is lighter and may have better torque but the ergonomics of the B & D are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I've been beating the bag out of my Makita for the last 5 years and it still works great. Personally, anything bigger than 12 or 14.4V is absurd unless you're a contractor. 36V here, but it can get quite heavy. I also own 24V, 18V and 14.4V drills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 if you bought a hole hawg you could do all kinds of neat stuff. for instance, you can spin around in circles if the bit gets stuck and you don't let go. I can't do that with my magnum, it just rips itself out of my hands or simply stops in the rare event that the bit snags on something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Digging up an old thread here, but was wondering if there have been anything new and exciting in the world of cordless drill? Also, anyone here has experience with Rockwell drills? Their free batteries for life program intrigues me, though their drills are bit expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebby Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I went for a Makita BDF452HW after reading Fine Woodworking's 18V roundup review: Tool Test: Compact 18-volt Cordless Drills - Fine Woodworking PDF Cover Page Li-Ion 18V so it's got a good amount of torque in a small package; I also found the LED light to be handy as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I just bought a new Porter Cable 18v Li-Ion set w/impact gun. The impact gun is really sweet for driving 3" or longer screws, but eats up battery life a lot quicker than the drill. Most of the new 18v Li-Ion drills are as lightweight now as the old 14.4v used to be. I too like the LED light for working in dark spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I just bought a new Porter Cable 18v Li-Ion set w/impact gun. The impact gun is really sweet for driving 3" or longer screws, but eats up battery life a lot quicker than the drill. Most of the new 18v Li-Ion drills are as lightweight now as the old 14.4v used to be. I too like the LED light for working in dark spaces. You need the Light of E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Al, you may have a different kind of drilling and dark space in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Steve, I was looking at a setup like the one you bought recently since my cordless is down to own good battery. It's hard to fault it, having lasted 6 years or so and through countless projects. Still it's always frustrating to look and find that buying an entire new drill with two batteries costs slightly more than buying one replacement battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Still it's always frustrating to look and find that buying an entire new drill with two batteries costs slightly more than buying one replacement battery. This. Which is why I'm interested in the Rockwell drills for their lifetime battery replacement program, but the one drill I found was ~$280 and that's more than I want to spend right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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