postjack Posted November 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 The Texas contingent would be very interested in listening to it Yes please. I'd love to A/B it with my Consonance SUT. Just tell me when you want it back and I can send it, I'm pretty sure now that I'll buy one when I get the chance. By all means, send it on to the Lone Star state whenever you are done. I'm doing just fine with my current setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 :dance: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungrych Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Sure, just pm me an address and I'll send it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 :dance: after you, sir... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jleezard Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I ordered my Cinemag transformers yesterday, according to David at Cinemag they have a very hard time keeping the transformers in stock. So my units should be shipped next week. I guess since they are out of stock, they must be either a really good product or they are being purchased based on price alone. I'll keep you posted on the build up, in the mean time I will need to find a Denon Dl 103 to purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted November 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 purchase your DL-103 from ebayer williamthakker. Even shipped from EU his price is by far the best, and his reputation is impeccable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jleezard Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Well I have the Cinemags and the Zu/Denon Dl 103 up and running and I could not be more pleased. The Cinemag transformers were a breeze to set up with no hum at all, and the Zu/Denon is unbelievable. Zu was running a special on the 1% model at $299.00, which makes the duo even more impressive. With a little work and approximately $425.00 in parts I have a really wonderful MC setup. IMHO, you would have to spend a lot more to get anything better. This pair is highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Cinemag doesn't really stock anything, from what I can tell. They build everything to order. That said, I'm a big fan of the transformers in my m3, so I'm sure they're at the very least a good value. I was looking into a dl110, but maybe I'll do 103 + SUT instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted November 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Well I have the Cinemags and the Zu/Denon Dl 103 up and running and I could not be more pleased. The Cinemag transformers were a breeze to set up with no hum at all, and the Zu/Denon is unbelievable. Zu was running a special on the 1% model at $299.00, which makes the duo even more impressive. With a little work and approximately $425.00 in parts I have a really wonderful MC setup. IMHO, you would have to spend a lot more to get anything better. This pair is highly recommended. nice deal on the zu, I hope to one day try one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Well I have the Cinemags and the Zu/Denon Dl 103 up and running and I could not be more pleased. The Cinemag transformers were a breeze to set up with no hum at all, and the Zu/Denon is unbelievable. Zu was running a special on the 1% model at $299.00, which makes the duo even more impressive. With a little work and approximately $425.00 in parts I have a really wonderful MC setup. IMHO, you would have to spend a lot more to get anything better. This pair is highly recommended. That's the same cartridge and deal I got too. The Cinemags are supposed to be a wonderful match. Can I ask what tonearm you're using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I ordered my Cinemag transformers yesterday, according to David at Cinemag they have a very hard time keeping the transformers in stock. So my units should be shipped next week. I guess since they are out of stock, they must be either a really good product or they are being purchased based on price alone. I'll keep you posted on the build up, in the mean time I will need to find a Denon Dl 103 to purchase. What other MC carts in that price range have you heard? Just wondering, because statements like this "IMHO, you would have to spend a lot more to get anything better. " are pretty bold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Just wondering, because statements like this "IMHO, you would have to spend a lot more to get anything better. " are pretty bold. I dunno, say another $300? Maybe that's a lot percentage wise... I still maintain my hubristic (dunno if that's a word, but hey..) comment that graces the title of the "ZYX" thread I started here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jleezard Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Tonearm: SME 3009 Series II I guess opinions may vary on the DL103/Cinemag combo, as they do on everything audio. But with that being said, I own several MM ranging from an ancient Stanton 681EEE/S to a Grado Reference Sonata, and this combo out performs them all. I have listened to several higher end units such as Dynavector X20, Ortofon Rondo and Shelter cartridges, and without doing an A/B comparison can't give detailed reviews, but I don't remember them offering anything that suggested any better tracking, soundstage or overall presentation than this combo. Let's not forget my statement was also made based on finding a true multi-tap SUT for $125.00, most DIY Transformers will cost at least twice that and pre-built units can cost much more. A parting thought, there may be something special about matching a 45 year old cartridge design with a 40 year old tonearm design, it's just groovy man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deepak Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Any Bugle owners care to comment how many hours they get out of a pair of 9v batteries? Debating whether I want battery power or one with the PSU. The huge plus side of the battery powered unit being it would be infinitely easier to "case" up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Any Bugle owners care to comment how many hours they get out of a pair of 9v batteries? Debating whether I want battery power or one with the PSU. The huge plus side of the battery powered unit being it would be infinitely easier to "case" up. Deepak, the figure "20hrs" sticks in my head for some reason. Of course it'll largely be dictated on opamp choice and battery capacity. Actually I just looked and Hagerman quotes it at 16hrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Cool thanks Nate. Didn't even dawn on me to check Hagerman's site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaweb Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Well I have the Cinemags and the Zu/Denon Dl 103 up and running and I could not be more pleased. The Cinemag transformers were a breeze to set up with no hum at all, and the Zu/Denon is unbelievable. Zu was running a special on the 1% model at $299.00, which makes the duo even more impressive. With a little work and approximately $425.00 in parts I have a really wonderful MC setup. IMHO, you would have to spend a lot more to get anything better. This pair is highly recommended. Hello, A total newbie here, looking to buy a phono-stage match a MC Denon DL103R. If I pickup the recommended "Bugle" (assembled) and Cinemag tranformers plus additional power supply where do I go from there? i.e what soldering, etc if any required? Again, sorry for the newbie question. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hello, A total newbie here, looking to buy a phono-stage match a MC Denon DL103R. If I pickup the recommended "Bugle" (assembled) and Cinemag tranformers plus additional power supply where do I go from there? i.e what soldering, etc if any required? Again, sorry for the newbie question. Gary Gary: I'd try and find one of the "assembled" Cinemag setups, on Ebay/Audiogon/etc. At that point, all you need is cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaweb Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 thanks luvdunhill will google and ebay that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooka Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Hi, I have a Bugle set with 50db gain, and would like to use it with a Denon DL160 cartridge. Anyone could suggest a proper loading value... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I enjoyed it at 100ohms, but currently run it at 10ohms, both sound great. different phono stages though, the 100ohms was the bugle, the 10ohms Quad 99 Pre. 470ohms (bugle) was to bright for me. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooka Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I enjoyed it at 100ohms, but currently run it at 10ohms, both sound great. different phono stages though, the 100ohms was the bugle, the 10ohms Quad 99 Pre. 470ohms (bugle) was to bright for me. YMMV. So you mean ADDING a 100ohm resistor to the Bugle, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 So you mean ADDING a 100ohm resistor to the Bugle, right? whatever resistor you need to add in to have the loading at 100ohms. there is a calculator at the Hagtech website that figures it out for you. I'm not real strong with DIY stuff so I can't tell you what it is off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooka Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'll try to find it out, thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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