ilikebananafudge Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 So I just bought a CKKIII with a built in Alien DAC and the Alien just isn't cutting it for me. The CKKIII is a big upgrade for me, and I thought it was amazing from USB until I hooked it up to my parents cheap CD Player ( JVC XL-FZ158 ) and then it sounded a LOT better. So I think I need a new source to bring to college. Problem is that I don't have a lot of money to spend. For reference I have K701s and Headphiled SR225s. I like the K701s better as of right now. My budget is around $300. I was thinking of several things: The cheapest solution would be to use the Wolfson in my iPod. I could hook up my iPod to my Meier Move, which would function as a pre-amp. I'd just need to buy a mini to RCA adapter cable. I was also thinking of a Beresford TC 7510 DAC. I had heard good things about it over at head-fi. At $250 or so that would be great. If I bought this I would also need an EMU 0404 or a USB thingie to connect the DAC to my laptop. I was also thinking of selling the meier move and trying to get a pico and using that as a pre-amp, either through the DAC on pico or on my iPod. Or I could just buy the JVC CD player for around $100. But I had never heard of it, so I figured there were probably better options. Another option would be way out of my budget, but I could get a Stello DA100. I sort of want to do this, but its kind of double my budget... Any thoughts, suggestions, impressions would be great. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarium Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Uh.. Ipod to Meier Move sounds like an ultra travesty. I don't know much about that Beresford DAC per se but the EMU 0404 usb doesn't sound too terrible in its own right. If you are looking for something better I would hold out for Headamp's DAC only version of the Pico. People seem to like the Apogee Duet if you are a mac user... used it is also only slightly above your price point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinp6301 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Almost anything is better then an Alien DAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostonetr Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I think the beresford is a pretty good deal for it's price. But it in no way is a giant killer. And as "perfect" as it sounds to some user, when the next model/revision comes out, all of a sudden it improves on flaws/faults that were not previously mentioned before by them. Quite a few laptops these days have optical out from the onboard soundcard. Maybe you can hook up direct from your laptop to DAC that way. The emu 0404 works for some as a DAC by itself, and going emu 0404 --> Beresford seems a bit pricy. There might be a better combination for the money. The M-Audio USB Transit is a cheaper way to go usb -> optical -> DAC., at about $50 used I believe I can't say how it compares in performance to units like the USB Thingee/Trends UD-10.1/hagtech usb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 If you were up for a little DIY you could build a USB Opus with a Metronome ASRC board for around $300. Would also give you the option to upgrade to a full balanced DAC in the future by just adding boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikebananafudge Posted August 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 If you were up for a little DIY you could build a USB Opus with a Metronome ASRC board for around $300. Would also give you the option to upgrade to a full balanced DAC in the future by just adding boards. Sadly, I am quite clueless when it comes to DIY. Haven't built anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filburt Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 YGPM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLoudG20 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 YGPM MOTMOTMOTMOTMOTMOTMOTMOTMOTMOTMOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessingx Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 People seem to like the Apogee Duet if you are a mac user... used it is also only slightly above your price point.I know there was one offered 'slightly above' this price point, but I think most are selling for near new prices aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarium Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 that's perhaps true. i thought i saw another 1-2 at ~that price but as I don't have a mac I haven't really kept tabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cankin Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Someone please build this and tell us how it sounds, of course when it's available HeadWize: DIY Workshop > γ1: Full-featured modular miniature DAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Someone please build this and tell us how it sounds, of course when it's available HeadWize: DIY Workshop > γ1: Full-featured modular miniature DAC I'd say it's a safe bet that I'll build at least one when the design is complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cankin Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 I'd say it's a safe bet that I'll build at least one when the design is complete. amb even mentioned that he's building a higher end DAC in future. "Yes, I would indeed like to do a high-end DAC in the future. With a larger form-factor, it would permit the addition of an ASRC, the choice of a DAC chip with fully-differential output, and perhaps a discrete output stage, etc. In the mean time, the little γ1 should still be better than most in its size/price class." [url=http://headwize.com/ubb/showpost.php?fnum=3&tid=7469&pid=70575&fpage=2]HeadWize: View Post [DIY Workshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikebananafudge Posted August 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 People seem to like the Apogee Duet if you are a mac user... used it is also only slightly above your price point. I don't have a mac laptop, so that's not an option, sadly. Thanks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarium Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Yeah he mentioned when I asked him at the San Mateo meet he was going to do a more portable dac then a high end one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefy Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 amb even mentioned that he's building a higher end DAC in future. Brilliant. AMB does amazing work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeggy Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Woo, if I can actually get a full kit from AMB or whoever, I'll try to make one of these myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Looks like more of my money will be going to AMB. Still waiting on the B24 to be released so I can build 5 for my home theater:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeggy Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 x2 You're like the guy with the 6 Krell references for his B&W Nautilus sytem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkam Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Looks like more of my money will be going to AMB. Still waiting on the B24 to be released so I can build 5 for my home theater:eek: Your going to need a separate A/C unit to keep that room cool . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarium Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 As long as he isn't like that guy with 20,000 dollars of power cords for his 2,000 source/amp/headphones system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeggy Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 No, that'd be more like PatRICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Your going to need a separate A/C unit to keep that room cool . Not to mention a dedicated breaker for for just the amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 No $20,000 cables here. I think three would be good to start with for all the main channels, then go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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