JBLoudG20 Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Posted July 25, 2008 Last night my friend brought up a really good point IMO: Right now on Amazon, there is about a $300 price difference between the Blackbook, and the 15" 2.4/220GB/2GB MacbookPro. For $300 I would get: + Larger screen with better resolution + Aluminum Case + Dedicated Video Card + Dual-link (Full) DVI out - 50GB less HD space - heavier - lower battery life - less portable I think for $300 it is a good idea, if just for the video card alone. Anyone agree/disagree/in love with postjack?
grawk Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 the $300 also gets you: heavier lower battery life less convenient portably etc I bought the macbook not because it was the cheapest, but because it was the smallest. Take the same $300 extra, and spend it on a 20" monitor, and bluetooth keyboard and mouse
JBLoudG20 Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Posted July 25, 2008 the $300 also gets you: heavier lower battery life less convenient portably etc I bought the macbook not because it was the cheapest, but because it was the smallest. Take the same $300 extra, and spend it on a 20" monitor, and bluetooth keyboard and mouse I can understand that, but I don't feel I rank the portability very high in my list of wants. I mean, sure I'd like it a bit more portable than the 17" version, but the Macbook pro won't be much larger than my Lenovo, which is just fine for portability's sake.
grawk Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 but is it more useful to you than a macbook with a 20" display?
aardvark baguette Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 If you look at it in pure financial terms, you will probably end up avoiding mac altogether. I've had many intentions of getting mac this and that, but always ended up getting something cheaper, though not necessarily better. I think you need to ask yourself if you're willing to pay a little more in order to get Macintosh software and O.S. Because there are plenty of computers cheaper than any mac, and thats not likely to change. All I know is, several computers later, and I still haven't kicked my itch for a mac.
grawk Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 if you look at it in pure financial terms, and discount stealing software, you may find you're coming out ahead buying a mac. The equation is even easier with the laptops, as the macbook and macbook pro can both be had for about the same price as lenovo and dell laptops in similar quality categories.
JBLoudG20 Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Posted July 25, 2008 If you look at it in pure financial terms, you will probably end up avoiding mac altogether. I've had many intentions of getting mac this and that, but always ended up getting something cheaper, though not necessarily better. I think you need to ask yourself if you're willing to pay a little more in order to get Macintosh software and O.S. Because there are plenty of computers cheaper than any mac, and thats not likely to change. All I know is, several computers later, and I still haven't kicked my itch for a mac. I already addressed this, Chris. I am willing to spend the gobs of extra money to avoid using Windows. Its that cut and dry. I will not use windows, and the only other way to use Lightroom is the MacOS. I have tried alternative programs, and nothing holds a candle, IMO. I won't go into why I refuse to use windows, as this debate will just rage on. Its easiest to leave it at this: my preference is to never use windows. There is no talking me into it, the same way I do not force my own opinions about computing on others. Use what works for you While is does cost a premium to use Mac products, I may as well give it a shot before I sit here and keep saying, "but mac is so expensive, for less money, you can get x better computer..." I can afford the mac, so I'll give them a fair shot. If I find that it doesn't serve its price, then I won't buy another Dan, I have a 19" Samsung, so I plan on using that with whichever one I decide on.
aardvark baguette Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 if you look at it in pure financial terms, and discount stealing software, you may find you're coming out ahead buying a mac. The equation is even easier with the laptops, as the macbook and macbook pro can both be had for about the same price as lenovo and dell laptops in similar quality categories. No question, Apple has the edge in software. I never hear of people buying a mac and instantly wiping the hd clean to get rid of bloatware. I guess I was really thinking about the tech side, but as it relates to price, i.e. what computer has the most ghz for the least $, or faster HD for less $, etc.
grawk Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 I just did the pricing yesterday, hardware for hardware, macbooks are competitively priced. They're not the "CHEAPEST" but they're competitive. And come with things that cost extra on other laptops, like 802.11n and firewire. Then you figure in things like keyboard feel, and the macbook seems like a bargain.
aardvark baguette Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 They're not the "CHEAPEST" but they're competitive. I'd agree with that. Same price ballpark, with better feel and aesthetics. As an aside, I'm fairly sure I'm going to end up with a MBP before 2009. Unless they release something completely new and I'm blown away by that.
JBLoudG20 Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Posted July 25, 2008 I'd agree with that. Same price ballpark, with better feel and aesthetics. As an aside, I'm fairly sure I'm going to end up with a MBP before 2009. Unless they release something completely new and I'm blown away by that. I'm heavily leaning that way, as well.
saint.panda Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 Last night my friend brought up a really good point IMO: Right now on Amazon, there is about a $300 price difference between the Blackbook, and the 15" 2.4/220GB/2GB MacbookPro. For $300 I would get: + Larger screen with better resolution + Aluminum Case + Dedicated Video Card + Dual-link (Full) DVI out - 50GB less HD space - heavier - lower battery life - less portable I think for $300 it is a good idea, if just for the video card alone. Anyone agree/disagree/in love with postjack? The thing I miss the most from my old MBP is the backlit keyboard. I often find myself working under bad lighting conditions, and this is one of the reasons I want to get me a Macbook Air as soon as I have money again, and because having a Macbook doesn't make me stand out at Starbucks anymore. The MBP has slightly worse wifi reception than the MB. Faraday and all that.
ingwe Posted July 26, 2008 Report Posted July 26, 2008 I just did the pricing yesterday, hardware for hardware, macbooks are competitively priced. They're not the "CHEAPEST" but they're competitive. And come with things that cost extra on other laptops, like 802.11n and firewire. Then you figure in things like keyboard feel, and the macbook seems like a bargain. "He's right, do you know that?"
ojnihs Posted July 26, 2008 Report Posted July 26, 2008 went from powerbook to macbook due to the size difference. i love the MBPs, but the increased portability and battery life of the macbook does it for me.
deepak Posted July 26, 2008 Report Posted July 26, 2008 I'd get a Macbook as well if I were in the market for an Apple laptop. Bump up the RAM and the base model seems like a great deal.
JBLoudG20 Posted July 26, 2008 Author Report Posted July 26, 2008 Too late. I pulled the plug on a 2.4Ghz, 200GB, 2GB RAM Pro. I also ordered 4GB or crucial ram, Adobe lightroom, and a belkin sleeve. Should arrive on Wednesday. The current talk of the new price drop will be about $100. I pulled the whole package for 2000, including lightroom, ram and sleeve. I can't complain
ojnihs Posted July 26, 2008 Report Posted July 26, 2008 Too late. I pulled the plug on a 2.4Ghz, 200GB, 2GB RAM Pro. I also ordered 4GB or crucial ram, Adobe lightroom, and a belkin sleeve. Should arrive on Wednesday. The current talk of the new price drop will be about $100. I pulled the whole package for 2000, including lightroom, ram and sleeve. I can't complain nice buy bud
deepak Posted July 26, 2008 Report Posted July 26, 2008 Too late. I pulled the plug on a 2.4Ghz, 200GB, 2GB RAM Pro. I also ordered 4GB or crucial ram, Adobe lightroom, and a belkin sleeve. Should arrive on Wednesday. The current talk of the new price drop will be about $100. I pulled the whole package for 2000, including lightroom, ram and sleeve. I can't complain Refurbished? edit: never mind forgot that student discount gives you a decent chunk off msrp.
JBLoudG20 Posted July 26, 2008 Author Report Posted July 26, 2008 Refurbished? edit: never mind forgot that student discount gives you a decent chunk off msrp. Amazon. Cheaper than the student discount right now. Plus another combo deal I finaggled
Hopstretch Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 Moot point now, but this will be a nice update if it's legit. Still want a 802.11n multitouch tablet for Web browsing in bed, though!
JBLoudG20 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Posted July 28, 2008 I bought a MacBook Pro, not a MacBook. Also seeing the release date at late September. Glad I ordered now, assuming this is true.
Contrastique Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 Too late. I pulled the plug on a 2.4Ghz, 200GB, 2GB RAM Pro. Congrats!! Looking foward to buying a new one too. In september they are supposed to come out with a new "revolutionary" product, not sure if that concerns MB(P)s or something different. The Montevino is supposed to be replaced by the Nehalem (tic-toc) around 2009 so maybe I'll wait for that one to come out first...20 to 50% speed increase while power demand is 10% less (depending on single thread or multi thread)...sounds pretty good.
Hopstretch Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 I bought a MacBook Pro, not a MacBook. Right, that's why it's a moot point. Wasn't intended as any comment on your decision, just thought it was worth tacking on here since a few other people had expressed interest in the Macbook revision.
JBLoudG20 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Posted July 28, 2008 Congrats!! Looking foward to buying a new one too. In september they are supposed to come out with a new "revolutionary" product, not sure if that concerns MB(P)s or something different. Rumor say sitll be a MacBook Touch: tablet without a keyboard. The Montevino is supposed to be replaced by the Nehalem (tic-toc) around 2009 so maybe I'll wait for that one to come out first...20 to 50% speed increase while power demand is 10% less (depending on single thread or multi thread)...sounds pretty good. I agree. Montevino doesn't tickle my fancy, but the 2009 platform should be a great improvement. Right, that's why it's a moot point. Wasn't intended as any comment on your decision, just thought it was worth tacking on here since a few other people had expressed interest in the Macbook revision. Ah gotcha.
Contrastique Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 Rumor say sitll be a MacBook Touch: tablet without a keyboard. Yeah, heard about that too. Not looking foward to losing a real keyboard though.. I agree. Montevino doesn't tickle my fancy, but the 2009 platform should be a great improvement. Yeah, i'm looking forward to that.. Just found out that there are already two successors of the Nehalem: Westmere & Sandy Bridge..it just goes too fast
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