Voltron Posted October 12, 2013 Report Posted October 12, 2013 I'm jealous that Jeff actually knows how to take real photos and can use something than the Auto setting.
Torpedo Posted October 12, 2013 Report Posted October 12, 2013 Where those made with the RX-100 II? They look good enough for me anyway, I mean, they're great . As Al says, there's more of knowing how, when, and what on a good photo than the camera.
VPI Posted October 12, 2013 Report Posted October 12, 2013 Thanks. 75% of the craft breweries at the event were all from Charlottesville area. Evidently RT 151 or something is stacked with good craft brewers including the GABF best small brewery several years running. Time for a HeadAmp beer and Mountain Biking Meet I think.
Cankin Posted October 12, 2013 Report Posted October 12, 2013 I was looking at Tamron 24-70 when I bought my 6D but there are reports of issue of lens came off. In the end, I bought 24-105 which has better range and IS. http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/09/tamron-24-70-f2-8-vc-issue
n_maher Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Great shots Jeff. Agreed. I miss having time to go out and shoot like that.
The Expanding Man Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 I posted some months back seeking people's opinions about selling my DX outfit for micro 4/3's gear. I've ended up with an Olympus OMD em5 and most of the fast primes. So far, no regrets. Some shots from Saturday's charity zombie walk. All with the Olympus 45 f1.8 from memory: 1
Cankin Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 Sigma is going to announce a new 24-105 f/4 zoom: http://www.sigma-global.com/en/lenses/cas/product/art/a_24_105_4/ and New Sony FF mirrorless 24MP A7 and 36MP A7r: http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-hot-first-full-size-images-of-the-a7-and-a7r-cameras-with-lenses/
Salt Peanuts Posted October 14, 2013 Report Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) ^ So Sony will now have 2 lens lineups without lenses, unless those FF mirrorless bodies work (well) with current A-mount lenses - even though using current A-mount lenses would kill one of the benefits of having a mirrorless body. Edited October 14, 2013 by Salt Peanuts
Cankin Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 There will be a new FF A mount to E mount adapter and some new Zeiss branded prime and zoom. New FE lenses: Zeiss FE 24-70mm f/4.0 OSS Sony G 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS Zeiss FE 35mm f/2.8 Zeiss FE 55mm f/1.8 Zeiss FE 70-200mm f/4.0 OSS (coming early 2014) many more lenses coming the next 12 months (including fast primes).
Salt Peanuts Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) ^ So they have precisely 1 fast prime and no fast zoom actually planned. You'd think they'd at least have one exciting lens to go along with its release. It looks like Sony is going to repeat what they've done with NEX system as far as lenses are concerned. Edited October 15, 2013 by Salt Peanuts
Cankin Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 Unless they're going to be a niche product like Fuji or Leica, they'll repeat the unfortunate step of NEX.
padam Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 I think it is indeed a revolutionary product, there are a lot of legacy glass out there crying not to collect dust and fungus in the basement but to be used on something like this. I've already started collecting a few of them before the prices go even higher, the body can wait for a while I think. Only tried the Zuiko 100/2 so far which is not particularly small or cheap, but even on the 5N the colour, contrast and sharpness is superior to the Sony lens I've tried it is just difficult to use at 150mm and I don't have the EVF either (there is just not much point in buying it now). Wide angles are much easier to use those DOF markings are going to make sense now. Canon bodies are very good with many legacy glass as well (like this particular Zuiko) but with the more flexible mount and full-time live-view focusing this is just better suited to this. Sigma and Rokinon can still jump in as a 3rd party AF lens manufacturers and I think it will happen, just not now. And there will be Sony lens as well but probably the same so-so quality like it is now. DSLR is still going to be the weapon of choice for many things and yes there are endless choice of lenses but I like the FF mirrorless idea.
Jon L Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) There will be a new FF A mount to E mount adapter and some new Zeiss branded prime and zoom. New FE lenses:Zeiss FE 24-70mm f/4.0 OSSSony G 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 OSSZeiss FE 35mm f/2.8Zeiss FE 55mm f/1.8Zeiss FE 70-200mm f/4.0 OSS (coming early 2014)many more lenses coming the next 12 months (including fast primes).Precisely ONE lens interests me out of that whole group, which is the 55mm f/1.8.35 f/2.8? 24-70 f/4? Meh to the Moar power. Edited October 15, 2013 by Jon L
blessingx Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Can anyone explain to me how a constant aperture over the below coverage is achieved?Sony RX10 features 1-inch 20.2MP sensor, 24-200mm constant f/2.8 lens http://feedly.com/k/1er8J4u
Salt Peanuts Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 lots of elements combined with a relatively small sensor patch, would be my guess. Along with $1300 price tag and a weight of 1.8 pounds. And as Reks said, the sensor is small - ~1/8 the size of full frame sensors and ~1/3 the size of APS-C sensors. In terms of depth of field, I think it's close to f/8 in full frame, assuming I have numbers right.
Cankin Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Some nice FF E-mount lenses from Samyang Samyang 14mm f/2.8 ED AS IF UMC Samyang 24mm f/1.4 ED AS IF UMC Samyang T-S 24mm f/3.5 ED AS UMC Samyang 35mm f/1.4 AS UMC Samyang 85mm f/1.4 AS IF UMC http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/10/16/samyang-announces-five-full-frame-e-mount-lenses?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_5
catscratch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it's an E mount, can't you use pretty much any Canon, Nikon, or what have you lens with an adapter on it? I would think that the advantage of this is the same as the Nex - infinite lens compatibility - except that this time, you don't have a crop factor to deal with. Either way, unless I'm very much mistaken, I'll get this and use all my existing Canon lenses with it, plus the nice array of vintage lenses we've been slowly building up. The plan is to compare it against the 5d Mk3 and see what I can live with, and keep what wins... or both. Edited October 16, 2013 by catscratch
Jon L Posted October 16, 2013 Report Posted October 16, 2013 Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it's an E mount, can't you use pretty much any Canon, Nikon, or what have you lens with an adapter on it?There's already a review of Sony A7 and A7r from Camerastore. At about 11:30 into the video, the guy is seen shooting Canon L glass using Metabones adapter WITH autofocus intact! Now I'm excited, as I can see using my 85L on that 36 MP D800E sensor!
catscratch Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 Yeah that's why I'm looking forward to it too. Though thinking twice about it and setting the new toy itch aside for a second - when you're dealing with 36mp, no aa, and a ff sensor, those vintage primes will probably start to show their age, especially in the corners. And having recently done some field comparisons between the Mk3 and D800e, I'm not sure that it's a night and day difference in the final image. Now, I think the D800e has a thinner aa filter instead of no aa filter, and it's an upgraded version of the sensor - but I also can't shake the thought that the smart money may be to stick with what I've got and get more fast glass instead. Regardless - Sony is keeping the market interesting. Canon sure isn't. I can't want to know more.
Jon L Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 Regardless - Sony is keeping the market interesting. Canon sure isn't. I can't want to know more. Sad but true. Samyang already announced they will make FE mount versions of their popular MF lenses. I'm hoping Sigma announces FE mount versions of their ART series lenses. Now THAT would seal the deal, as I don't like those Zeiss FE lens prices at all..
Cankin Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 New Nikon 58mm f/1.4 for $1,699 http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/singlefocal/normal/af-s_nikkor58mmf_14g/index.htm
Salt Peanuts Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 ^ I guess they felt left out with introductions of Zeiss 55/1.4 @ $4K, Sony Zeiss 50/1.4 @ $1.5K, and Sony Zeiss 50/1.8 @ $1K.
padam Posted October 17, 2013 Report Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) If it is as good as the Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2 that they are mentioning then it is competitively priced. But to be honest, that was developed with one purpose in mind: to be sharp and very usable wide open (next to no coma for light sources at night) and nowadays high ISO performance and built-in IS etc. compensates this rather well. Edited October 17, 2013 by padam
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