swt61 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 And he's buying some odd stuff. Why buy heat shrink and sleeving on Ebay? Past due accounts with other companies possibly?
Salt Peanuts Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Glad to see you at least got a tracking number from Mikhail. Here's hoping it works out for you in the end. Past due accounts with other companies possibly? That was my thought, too.
tyrion Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Its hypothetical but it seems to me that I never had the amp, whould have never received the money back. Even if I did get the amp back it is likely to have problems and cause me to still not have the amp. In this situation, what will rolling over and spreading your ass cheeks do? So far, Mikhail has eventually delivered the product purchased. Better to have the amp with the chance there are problems then nothing at all. If the amp does have problems, the solution is to find someone that can repair the amp. At least a few in this situation have had their amps repaired by others. My only point is you can be as tough as you want but in the end you may find yourself empty handed. If you would be willing to take that risk, so be it. I would like to see those that are in this situation at least get their amps. My guess, and it is a guess, is that SP may not be around for very long.
Jeepster Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 So far, Mikhail has eventually delivered the product purchased. Better to have the amp with the chance there are problems then nothing at all. If the amp does have problems, the solution is to find someone that can repair the amp. At least a few in this situation have had their amps repaired by others. My only point is you can be as tough as you want but in the end you may find yourself empty handed. If you would be willing to take that risk, so be it. I would like to see those that are in this situation at least get their amps. My guess, and it is a guess, is that SP may not be around for very long. You think they will go under? Doesnt he make other stuff besides head amps? I wonder if that stuff is treated like the head amps?
Jeepster Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Tyrion, I just wanted to add that Mikhails reputation for bullshit is not new and was not outed in the recent threads on HF. The problems were there for all the current customers to read about for quite some time. Here is an example. SinglePower worth the trouble? - Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio
guzziguy Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 If I did a chargeback he very well could just turn around and sell my amp to someone else for significantly more than 500 dollars. It's not like he doesn't still have any customers at all... I guess he might, but shrug I'm sure there are still the faithful. After what he did to Tom and what you are going through, the number of faithful has dwindled considerably. Hell 6 months ago if he was like "Hey Dan I have a completed SDS-XLR that a customer decided they didn't want and stopped payment on.. would you be interested in it for 5k?" I very well may have taken him up on that. Who knows... esp if the full history wasn't publicized. Yes, a "completed" amp would tempt people. Still, they would be stupid to give him money until the amp was provably shipped. You shouldn't do it either. Wait until Monday. @Jeepster - Just because you can be an asshat doesn't mean you have to be. The only real rule on HC is don't be an asshat. So you can't be an asshat, at least not for long. Now you are out an amp, the money paid for the amp, your plane ticket, hotel for the night, taxi and/or rental car. Don't forget the potential criminal charges if you try to intimidate him, especially physically. All he has to do is not allow you into his office or home and you are stuck. If you force your way in, it's trespassing. Dan is doing the right thing. If he ends up paying and the amp doesn't show, he'll have basis for a fraud charge. It's much better to on the "no criminal charge" side of this argument. And he's buying some odd stuff. Why buy heat shrink and sleeving on Ebay? Maybe he was just building up (padding) his feedback.
pabbi1 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 It is "supra_buyer" I thought it was gilpin eBay Feedback Profile for gilpin_1893 Amazing they have 100% positive...
Rob N Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 I believe this is SP as well AudiogoN Seller items: Audionotelover or someone has used his pics.
blubliss Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 I believe this is SP as well AudiogoN Seller items: Audionotelover or someone has used his pics. That's gotta be him. He brought that DAC to the last SoCal meet.
Augsburger Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Yes he did bring one to the So Cal meet though it is hard to tell from the pics on Agon. Then again what is the probability of more than one owner of a $64,000 DAC living in the Denver CO area?
Torpedo Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Yes he did bring one to the So Cal meet though it is hard to tell from the pics on Agon. Then again what is the probability of more than one owner of a $64,000 DAC living in the Denver CO area? So that's the thing he bought with all the money harvested from his customers waiting for a product delivery Now I understand he has no cash for repairs and builds... Does anybody know if M has a bipolar disorder? Such behavior is truly suggesting.
Icarium Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Yeah he did. At least from what he had told me in the past.
Fitz Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 ^ I think he traded an amp for that Whose amp though?
Rob N Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Yes he did bring one to the So Cal meet though it is hard to tell from the pics on Agon. Then again what is the probability of more than one owner of a $64,000 DAC living in the Denver CO area? The pics of the tubes listed look like same as his Ebay pics
Torpedo Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 ^ I think he traded an amp for that One of the amps he builds? OMG
spritzer Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) Did he manage to charge 60k for one of his amp? That is truly astounding salesmanship. Edited January 11, 2009 by spritzer
F1GTR Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 I believe this is SP as well AudiogoN Seller items: Audionotelover or someone has used his pics. I can't stand people that list items as "NIB" yet still claim "this unit has not been used except for testing and audition". How is it possible for something to be new and used at the same time? Also, what moron tries to sell a $64,000 item with 0 feedback?
Hopstretch Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Also, what moron tries to sell a $64,000 item with 0 feedback? Presume this is a rhetorical question?
swt61 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 So far, Mikhail has eventually delivered the product purchased. Better to have the amp with the chance there are problems then nothing at all. If the amp does have problems, the solution is to find someone that can repair the amp. At least a few in this situation have had their amps repaired by others. My only point is you can be as tough as you want but in the end you may find yourself empty handed. If you would be willing to take that risk, so be it. I would like to see those that are in this situation at least get their amps. My guess, and it is a guess, is that SP may not be around for very long. While it's a sad situation to have to deal with SPs antics, he hasn't to my knowledge taken money without ever delivering the product. I have to agree with Mike here. It may be a pain in the ass, but getting the amp eventually seems to be the best outcome.
n_maher Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 I think that Tom might disgree with Steve and Mike since he has, to this point failed to deliver what was ordered. Delivering broken or mismatched components does not count. If so, I have a pair of K1000's to sell, just don't mind the DT770s that will show up in the box. After all, they're both headphones.
Icarium Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 I think they are taking the view if Tom and others including I wait longer then we get delivered something satisfactory. This may be true, but my faith has been shakened.
tyrion Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 I think that Tom might disgree with Steve and Mike since he has, to this point failed to deliver what was ordered. Delivering broken or mismatched components does not count. If so, I have a pair of K1000's to sell, just don't mind the DT770s that will show up in the box. After all, they're both headphones. My only point is that the amps are all paid for. Unless Mikhail is willing or able to give refunds, get what you can, while you can. It may be all you can get. Legal action will likely be difficult, expensive and if you get a judgment, you may never collect.
Icarium Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Ah yeah that's mostly my line of thinking too.
swt61 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 I think that Tom might disgree with Steve and Mike since he has, to this point failed to deliver what was ordered. Delivering broken or mismatched components does not count. If so, I have a pair of K1000's to sell, just don't mind the DT770s that will show up in the box. After all, they're both headphones. OK, I've only heard snippits of this story, so I'm ignorant to the outcome. What's the deal, and which member is Tom?
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