penger Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 So... was I mislead in thinking that I would be getting a 14 amp external transformer?
guzziguy Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 Who knows? Part of Mikhail's problem is that he tends to tinker constantly with product lines. Another problem is that he takes on too much custom work. Did you ask for a 14A transformer or is that what he talked about? If you have doubts, call him up and talk with him. Tell him that you saw pictures of an Extreme external p/s and that it did not have a 14A transformer. Refer him to the pictures. Get the brand and product number of the transformer he will use. Make sure that you and he are communicating well and are both talking exactly about the same thing. I recently opened my Platinum Extreme, partially to verify that I had all the upgrades that I had ordered. That was after reading some of the recent SP threads both here and on HF. All upgrades were there.
Parafeed Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 So I am INCORRECT. Did you ask Craig for a picture? I'm inclined to believe this (what with him being the amps designer) but without a picture we just can't be sure ....... ;-)
kevin gilmore Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 your wish is my command... Why doesn't mikhail's stuff look this good? Its 3 to 10 times as much money. And lookie just one umbilical connector, you can't plug it in wrong... http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd01.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd02.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd03.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd04.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd05.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd06.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd07.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd08.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd09.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd10.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd11.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/zd12.jpg and the original prototype (i think) http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/xyzana1.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/xyzana2.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/xyzana3.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/xyzana4.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/xyzana5.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/xyzana6.jpg http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/xyzana7.jpg
kevin gilmore Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 266N12 transformer from mouser $34.37 plus shipping 266N12 crappy non-ventilated box, power connector,switch and wire $15.00 Mikhail's expert soldering job to put the piece of crap together.... PRICELESS
Parafeed Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 your wish is my command... Thank you. I concur - both filaments are used! Glad we sorted that out. (Sorry, English humour! ;-) Why doesn't mikhail's stuff look this good? Its 3 to 10 times as much money. I have no axe to grind and I've never heard a one of his amps, but I have to figure his stuff must sound good, otherwise why would people put up with paying up front and waiting eons for his amps?
4N6 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 A partial list of the great amplifier designers: Nelson Pass: Threshold/Pass Labs/First Watt John Curl: Mark Levinson/Vendetta/Parasound/CTC Builders Dan D'Agostino: Krell Jeff Rowland: Jeff Rowland Design Group Antony Michaelson: Musical Fidelity Kevin Gilmore: Northwestern University??? Kevin, when are we going to see you enter the audio business and put these terrific amplifier designs into consumer practice? Personnaly, I am not a DIY'er and would like to see your designs available.
4N6 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 Headamp doesnt count? No, that is Justin's Company. He gets the credit for making the products.
kevin gilmore Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 Kevin, when are we going to see you enter the audio business and put these terrific amplifier designs into consumer practice? Personnaly, I am not a DIY'er and would like to see your designs available. Not in this economy. Krell is going to shrink by more than half over the next few years and has already laid off numerous valueable employees. Levinson was bought by Harmon Kardon who is now itself finally in a bit of money trouble. None of the levinson monoblocks are made anymore. Revel in similar shape. Crown now also owned by levinson. Not a good thing. Ayre and many of the other boutique companies are in severe trouble. Many great and not so great speaker manufacturers have gone out of business. Jeff Rowland fired his entire company something like twice now. I would much rather sit down and listen to the music, and get justin to build all the stuff i now want. Too hard to make money in this business, and too much work to build it for nothing.
hungrych Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 No, that is Justin's Company. He gets the credit for making the products. But they're KG's designs...
kevin gilmore Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 But they're KG's designs... Not the pico or ae2. Both of which kick ass. Mikhail, ray, justin and a few others are special people that put up with a lot to do what they do. Same thing with the 2 todds. Ray was up until recently the most sucessful of the bunch. No one would consider Tyll normal by any stretch of the imagination. I notice that AKG and Studer are now listed as owned by harman international. A sad day indeed for revox/studer. nagra is bound to be next.
4N6 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 Kevin, Thanks for the response and there is a lot of logic in it. It is a tough economy and has been for a long time for dedicated high-end manufacturers. Certainly not for those looking for a get-rich-quick scheme. To try to make a living in this economy running a small and very specialized business is risky at best and takes a lot of guts. I also have a TREMENDOUS amount of respect for the small manufacturers like Ray, Mikhail, Justin, Jack Woo, Craig Uthus, Tyll, and others. To put up with design, implementation, parts, supplies, orders, shipping, repairs, and simple customer service (to just cover the basics) takes an amazing amount of work, dedication, talent, skill, and experience...something that many armchair quarterbacks such as myself will never be able to appreciate.
riceboy Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 I also have a TREMENDOUS amount of respect for the small manufacturers like Ray, Mikhail, Justin, Jack Woo, Craig Uthus, Tyll, and others. To put up with design, implementation, parts, supplies, orders, shipping, repairs, and simple customer service (to just cover the basics) takes an amazing amount of work, dedication, talent, skill, and experience...something that many armchair quarterbacks such as myself will never be able to appreciate. Very well said in regards to the amount of talent these small manufacturers have. My hat is off to them as Kevin has mentioned in this economy it's not so easy. Just as you have mentioned 4n6, I have a great deal of respect for them as it is a hard job which takes a great deal of dedication, commitment and heart.
n_maher Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Posted September 15, 2008 A partial list of the great amplifier designers: Nelson Pass: Threshold/Pass Labs/First Watt John Curl: Mark Levinson/Vendetta/Parasound/CTC Builders Dan D'Agostino: Krell Jeff Rowland: Jeff Rowland Design Group Antony Michaelson: Musical Fidelity Kevin Gilmore: Northwestern University??? Kevin, when are we going to see you enter the audio business and put these terrific amplifier designs into consumer practice? Personnaly, I am not a DIY'er and would like to see your designs available. Errr, emmm, Pete Millett might belong on that list...
postjack Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 Hearing a lot of the behind the scenes stuff, I'm thinking the customer service might be the hardest part. A lot of audiophiles are shitty customers.
riceboy Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 Errr, emmm, Pete Millett might belong on that list... hehe. Yes 4n6 you do have this . A wonderful amp:
4N6 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 Errr, emmm, Pete Millett might belong on that list... 100% Agree. As I originally said, it was a "partial" list. Hearing a lot of the behind the scenes stuff, I'm thinking the customer service might be the hardest part. A lot of audiophiles are shitty customers. Yeah, I am sure that most audiophile customers want the product to look awesome, sound awesome, cost cheap, be 100% reliable, and be available RIGHT NOW! And they will bitch if all of the above is not true.
morphsci Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 Yeah, I am sure that most audiophile dickhead customers, like eartwitter, want the product to look awesome, sound awesome, cost cheap, be 100% reliable, and be available RIGHT NOW! And they will bitch if all of the above is not true. FTFY
guzziguy Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 Indeed you did! Oops, you forgot to strike out the "sound awesome" part.
morphsci Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 Indeed you did! Oops, you forgot to strike out the "sound awesome" part. I thought, by definition, everything eartwitter owns sounds (or will sound) awesome (to him/it)
spritzer Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 I thought, by definition, everything eartwitter owns sounds (or will sound) awesome (to him/it) ...and slowly, but surely, damages the diaphragms in his phones. "My amp is so good that the phones can't handle the level of awesomeness..."
penger Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 So I asked Mikhail about having a external PS that wasn't 14amps. He said this: "The outboard supply was likely custom configured utilizing 200% duty cycle." Can someone explain to me what that means?
Hopstretch Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 It means he thinks you're an idiot?
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