mzisman4 Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Up until about 30 minutes ago, I was set on picking up a pair of Denon AH-D2000 (based on head-fi reviews). But after reading 10+ pages of reasons not to get them I am back at square one. I have never purchased a pair of 'high end' headphones and unfortunately, have no means of demoing them. Therefore I am relying on your opinons and experiences to make up my mind. I do not have an amp but am planning to pick up an ibasso boa when I save up enough cash. I currently have about $300 but would like to set aside about $75 to start an 'amp savings'. I will however, dig into that if needed to get a better pair of cans. The only headphones I know are in this range are the Denon AH-D2000 and Beyerdynamic dt770. I would be open to an 'open' pair but I have heard that a lot of sound gets out. I plan to use these in my dorm room and would like to avoid annoying my roomates. Source: Ipod 30g (re-recording my tracks now), Anyhting form oldies to hip-hop Thanks for anything you guys can give
jinp6301 Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 People always want closed cans for dorms, but I never had a problem with open headphones and roommates. And if I wanted isolation, I always went with IEMs.
mzisman4 Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Posted July 5, 2008 I guess I am still considering an open pair (reccommendations are welcome) but would rather go with a closed set to be safe
tkam Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 I'd go for the Denon D2000 over the DT770 any day. Now that the D2000s price has dropped quite significantly I actually think they are a pretty good deal for the money. Unless you'd be willing try IEM's then I think you could do a lot better sound quality wise.
boomana Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 I'd suggest, if you're still looking at closed, the ATH-ESW9, unless you have a big head or really big ears. They have a really nice sound, are semi-portable (I wouldn't want to wear them out and about on campus, but good for a dorm or library). They don't really leak too much, but aren't the best for isolation. They run right around $300, but don't need an amp to sound good. On other other hand, if I were living in a dorm, I'd just pick up a pair of Sony MDR-V6s or 7560s. They sound pretty good, can take a bit of a beating, and run around $80, so if something happens to them, it's not that big of a deal. Otherwise, if you can do open, see if you can get some used HD580s or 600s, and you'll have some bucks left over for an amp.
mzisman4 Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Posted July 5, 2008 In your experiences, is the leaked sound really that loud/noticable?
jinp6301 Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Depends on what loud/noticeable is. My grados leak a decent amount more the senns but if your roommates arent right next to you, they shouldnt mind. The more important thing is that you wont be able to listen to your open headphones if your roommate has a TV on or has speakers on.
Fungi Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 BUT if it's quiet at night and your roommate is sleeping, he won't like it if he can't sleep with a little leaking sound.
jinp6301 Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Well, when I had 225s at my dorm, my roommate didnt mind when I was listening to some music before I slept so YMMV i guess
Fungi Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Mine didn't either, but he's not an asshole. I wouldn't either, but it may bother some.
Guest troymadison Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 You'd probably be very happy with the D2000. The DT770 is also pretty good if you want more bass, more isolation and want to save some money, but the sound quality lacks a bit (hollow sounding).
mzisman4 Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Posted July 5, 2008 REALLY? wow I hadn't even considered that. Thanks, I think I'm goingto keep looking for a closed set. I am still searching but I cannot find many... are the ESW9 worth the extra $100 over the AH-D2000? (taking a portable amp into consideraton)
boomana Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 In your experiences, is the leaked sound really that loud/noticable? If you're referring to the ESW9s, you can play music at moderate to almost loud and not bother anyone, even if close by. You'd probably be very happy with the D2000. The DT770 is also pretty good if you want more bass, more isolation and want to save some money, but the sound quality lacks a bit (hollow sounding). I am not a fan of either the D2000s or DT770s, and though I thought Darth Beyers were fun, I wouldn't consider them if they were my only headphone. REALLY? wow I hadn't even considered that. Thanks, I think I'm goingto keep looking for a closed set. I am still searching but I cannot find many... are the ESW9 worth the extra $100 over the AH-D2000? (taking a portable amp into consideraton) I happen to like the ESW9s and think they're worth it when compared to other closed headphones out there. They also don't need an amp, so you can take that out of your budget, though you might want to get one down the line (I liked the inexpensive MiniBox E+ with them), as they can benefit from one. Other folks have been happy with the D2000s. If you live anywhere near a meet, it's really the best way to find out for yourself.
Guest troymadison Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 I am not a fan of either the D2000s or DT770s, and though I thought Darth Beyers were fun, I wouldn't consider them if they were my only headphone. Same here, they are both long gone and I moved on to bigger and better things However, I still have my eyes on markl modded D5000s...
blessingx Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 My very limited experience with the Denons have not been positive so far. They're not for everyone, but I'd consider the Ultrasone 780s. They're decent with the iPod at max, but you would do better with an amp. Another easier to drive phone would be the AT A900. And I'd go closed with a roommate even if they didn't complain. Just seems common courtesy.
morphsci Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 For the best SQ - Sennheiser HD-25-1 II and don't look back except to replace the stock cord with a HD-580/600/650 cord. For the best comfort and Good SQ - Go with the Denons, they are a steal at their current price
mzisman4 Posted July 6, 2008 Author Report Posted July 6, 2008 If you live anywhere near a meet, it's really the best way to find out for yourself. Whats a meet exactly (I'm assuming an expo type thing?...) I'm in the SGV, CA if that helps at all
mzisman4 Posted July 6, 2008 Author Report Posted July 6, 2008 one more question, would the ibass boa work well with the ESW9s? It has great reviews but someone mentioned having to find matching impedences (sorry specs are greek to me). I was told that the Denons require a low impedence output amp (the headphones are 25 ohm impedence). The ESW9s have an impedence of 42 ohms. the ibasso has an output of 32 ohms (?)-got the spec from head-fi. Would this be good for the ESW9s? AH-D2000s? Please don't give me science talk...a yes/no or well/badly is what I'm looking for. I have no idea what those numbers mean I just regurgitated what i was told is important...I realize I may have wasted about 10 mins but its worth a shot Thanks
boomana Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 I don't know that amp at all. I recommend not getting an amp for awhile if you get the ESW9s. You don't need one. If you want to get an amp later, of about the 10 portable amps I've tried with them, the MiniBox E+ was the best under $200.
Tachikoma Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 And now for the threadly Stax recommendation: Stax SR-50 - Closed electret headphones. if they show up on ebay you should be able to get them for $100 or so. Carl loves them, but he did say they had horrible comfort.
The Monkey Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 HD 25-1. Does lots of things right, few wrong. Not spectacular in any one area, which is why I think it is underrated. But it gets the job done.
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