jp11801 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 well in a few days we'll all have them and be able to upload them into peak le or audacity and take screen shots to see how chopped the peaks got if at all. I went from totally pumped to not so much given the hype. I'm not sure the new remasters will top the best available lps
norfolk Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 I have the leak of the complete stereo versions downloading right now. I can share it when it's done.
deepak Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 I have the leak of the stereo version downloading right now. I can share it when it's done. No you won't be sharing it on Head-Case. This is a public forum and Head-Case could be held accountable for piracy.
zippy2001 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 well in a few days we'll all have them and be able to upload them into peak le or audacity and take screen shots to see how chopped the peaks got if at all. I went from totally pumped to not so much given the hype. I'm not sure the new remasters will top the best available lps The LPs will be coming out in November.
Augsburger Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 Yeah, now your talkin'. Me would wants.
jp11801 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 The LPs will be coming out in November. digital transfers at 24/192 to vinyl?
zippy2001 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 digital transfers at 24/192 to vinyl? I don't know, but I will ask someone at Capitol Studio or RTI, they should know. I am so bummed, they are going to have a Breakfast with the Beatles on 9/9/09 at the Capitol Tower to listen to the new remasters, enjoy breakfast, play rock band and give away a couple of boxsets. Unfortunately I will be out of town on business
Voltron Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 I don't know, but I will ask someone at Capitol Studio or RTI, they should know. I am so bummed, they are going to have a Breakfast with the Beatles on 9/9/09 at the Capitol Tower to listen to the new remasters, enjoy breakfast, play rock band and give away a couple of boxsets. Unfortunately I will be out of town on business Oh, that sucks to miss out. I should hope you get a box set anyway, insider-man!
zippy2001 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 Oh, that sucks to miss out. I should hope you get a box set anyway, insider-man! I wish I could get the mono, stereo and vinyl boxsets. I don't know at this point, especially when the Sr VP of Operations doesn't have a copy of the boxsets yet. And my boss the VP of IT has ordered his copy of the mono boxset from Amazon.com (although he is a bit of a Beatles nut, he stood in line at midnight when they release the Beatles Anthology I, only to find a copy on his desk in the morning).
Asr Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what makes the Mono box set so desirable? I'm not sure I get it - 10 albums released as mono-channel mixes, right? Why would anyone want to listen to a mono-channel mix on a two-channel system in favor of a stereo mix? Seems kinda odd to me....
Voltron Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 That's how they were recorded and will sound the way they are supposed to instead of the false stereo versions made from the original monos.
Sherwood Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 Here's the story. The majority of the albums were mono only originally. The only "official" version of all but the last three albums (IIRC) is the mono version, as the mono version is the only one the Beatles had any hand in mastering. Many of the early stereo versions of the albums are awful -- undynamic, vocals panned hard right, drums hard left, etc. It's felt by many that the mono versions are both better-sounding and more authentic. Mono isn't terribly bad, anyhow. It remains to be seen what the remastered early albums will sound like in stereo. I hear a good deal about them being based on the 1987 versions, which I find reasonable enough. All I know for sure is that the version of "Revolver" I heard today was fantastic. It sounded like a modern record.
Asr Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 So apparently if I want to get as many CDs to sound as optimal as possible, I should order the Mono box set, and then the Yellow Submarine and Abbey Road stereo remasters individually? (for example) As it looks like all the studio album remasters are also being released individually, but apparently they're all the stereo versions only. I think I should've ordered this Mono box set earlier....
Sherwood Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 Exactly, though you should probably just buy both box sets, since you might prefer the stereo master on any given track. Or just get Abbey Road and Let It Be in stereo, and forget they ever made Yellow Submarine
Asr Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 Probably good advice, I might as well order both box sets. I take it that either box set will have exceptional resale value?
penger Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 Probably the Mono more so than the stereo. I think the Stereo doesn't have a limit set?
Voltron Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 neither does the mono, any longer. I believe the mono box is still limited, but just not as limited and not numbered as some places thought it would be (Acoustic Sounds, for example).
jp11801 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 Here's the story. The majority of the albums were mono only originally. The only "official" version of all but the last three albums (IIRC) is the mono version, as the mono version is the only one the Beatles had any hand in mastering. Many of the early stereo versions of the albums are awful -- undynamic, vocals panned hard right, drums hard left, etc. It's felt by many that the mono versions are both better-sounding and more authentic. Mono isn't terribly bad, anyhow. It remains to be seen what the remastered early albums will sound like in stereo. I hear a good deal about them being based on the 1987 versions, which I find reasonable enough. All I know for sure is that the version of "Revolver" I heard today was fantastic. It sounded like a modern record. This is on the whole not true as the first few albums were recorded in twin track, essentially a two track multitrack recorder. Stereo was still fairly new at the time and England and Abbey Road studios lagged behind the US in regard to multitrack recorders. Pop groups never got the new stuff as it was allocated to classical sessions that EMI deemed more important. There is no dynamic difference between the two track stereo and mono at all from a master/mix tape perspective. I understand the lack of listening comfort with hard left/right pans but this is not to dissimilar to many jazz lps at the time. Please Please Me was release in the UK in 1962 in both stereo and mono as were the subsequent releases through MMT. My understanding is that Yellow Submarine is a stereo fold down and not true mono, but I could be wrong on that count. THe Beatles attended and approved just the mono mixes through the White Album so you could say the mono versions from PPM to Pepper were the only band approved versions with the stereo cuts relegated to several different mixing engineers and George Martin. The Beatles never attended mastering sessions, EMI used different engineers for recording/mixing and mastering just like today. What they approved was the final mix sessions. Mastering for LP occurred at a later date without George Martin or the Beatles with final eq needed to cut a master left up the EMI staff engineer. This price guide shows original labels that were used for first PPM prior to the parlophone label we are more used to seeing. Beatles UK LP's, Identification Guide
jp11801 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Posted September 5, 2009 missed my edit window PPM was release in march 1963
jp11801 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 Holy Crap, Mono box sounds pretty dang awesome! I still like the tube cut LPs the few I have but these are detail monsters. So far just listened to Revolver and PPM and I'll knock out the remainder this week. I am just about on Beatles overload as the Hoffman board was just about 100% Beatles all the time. Speaking of that the SH board seems to have collapsed today.
Hopstretch Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 So, purely hypothetical question, but if I had a mono FLAC file and converted it to ALAC and it shows up as stereo in iTunes, did I screw a pooch? Again, you know, just apropos of nothing.
jinp6301 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 Uh, I would make sure that the FLAC file marked as stereo first.
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