Cynric Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 Yes, and be prepared for a vast upgrade in fidelity over the dt880's. Biggie. Yes sure, Grados are more fun-phones than the DT880 or K701. They make a nice couple, being the exact opposite in some respects (got a pair of MS1 and K701 myself). Grados...dark...faints hey there need to be treble heads too
Cankin Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 treble on K701 is unbearable for me, and I use Proline 750 now
grawk Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 treble on K701 is unbearable for me, and I use Proline 750 now That's like fixing a loud muffler on a muscle car by getting a chrysler k car
guzziguy Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 That's like fixing a loud muffler on a muscle car by getting a chrysler k car :rofl:
n_maher Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 That's like fixing a loud muffler on a muscle car by getting a chrysler k car Well, he did use the sadcat smiley so it would at least appear as though he's not happy with his choice...
recstar24 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Posted March 26, 2008 Grados...dark...faints I think the concept of "dark" vs "fuzzy" needs to be elaborated and clarified further to get a better sense of what people are referring too. I will use the RS-1's as an example. Most users find the highs to be slightly forward, even etched, where it gives the overall sound balance a "brighter" perspective. However, the fullness of the mids and the upper bass gives the overall sound a "fuzziness", sometimes I call it a dirty or "mushy" sound, which others could describe as dark. Dark would be more in line with the senn 650's I think, even though I can see where someone would say a grado is dark especially if they use flat pads and it has a more full bodied presentation. Compared to the Dt880's however, which to my ears have a very shrill, thin, super etched presentation, the grados are definitely "darker" than them.
NotoriousBIG_PJ Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 Fuzzy is a dumb made up term. You be talking about warmth. The problem as I see it is dark mids vs. dark highs. Biggie.
grawk Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 fuzzy = musical and fun. Engaging. PRaT. Gets music "right" instead of perfect.
Cynric Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 I think the concept of "dark" vs "fuzzy" needs to be elaborated and clarified further to get a better sense of what people are referring too. I will use the RS-1's as an example. Most users find the highs to be slightly forward, even etched, where it gives the overall sound balance a "brighter" perspective. However, the fullness of the mids and the upper bass gives the overall sound a "fuzziness", sometimes I call it a dirty or "mushy" sound, which others could describe as dark. Dark would be more in line with the senn 650's I think, even though I can see where someone would say a grado is dark especially if they use flat pads and it has a more full bodied presentation. Compared to the Dt880's however, which to my ears have a very shrill, thin, super etched presentation, the grados are definitely "darker" than them. The Reference Grados sure do have nice resolution treble, but the volume of the mids and bass is just so much more than the treble; thats why I call them dark (or warm if you want). My beloved K701s are just the other way round: They do have a very clean and deep bass, but since the treble is more accentuated the phones can sound like they totally lack bass for some people. It's all a matter of what you are used to and what you set as your personal reference. fuzzy = musical and fun. Engaging. PRaT. Gets music "right" instead of perfect. That's probably a short way to say it.
Dusty Chalk Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 fuzzy = musical and fun. Engaging. PRaT. Gets music "right" instead of perfect.You know, I could have used this definition several years ago.
postjack Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 My beloved K701s are just the other way round: They do have a very clean and deep bass, but since the treble is more accentuated the phones can sound like they totally lack bass for some people. Nah, I think the K701 actually do do lack bass.
Smeggy Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 Nah, I think the K701 actually do do lack bass. Now that I've actually heard them I can now officially agree.
recstar24 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 Fuzzy is a dumb made up term. You be talking about warmth. The problem as I see it is dark mids vs. dark highs. Biggie. The "fuzz" was created by the one and only goredwings19. So shut your mouth and know your place foo.
recstar24 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 fuzzy = musical and fun. Engaging. PRaT. Gets music "right" instead of perfect. yahhhh
NotoriousBIG_PJ Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 The "fuzz" was created by the one and only goredwings19. So shut your mouth and know your place foo. Why do you think I made the statement. Can you say flash in the pan. Biggie.
recstar24 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 I'm with Biggie -- it's still dumb. Your dumb
Dusty Chalk Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 Your dumbMy dumb what? Or did you mean, "you're dumb"?
recstar24 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 My dumb what? Or did you mean, "you're dumb"? I stand corrected - "I'm dumb" - as in the contractual version of - "I am dumb"
recstar24 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Posted March 28, 2008 I stand corrected - "I'm dumb" - as in the contractual version of - "I am dumb" Hahaha nice edit! Note to self: Don't mess with someone who has message editing abilities. Confucious says..."one who messes with mod hits himself in eye with fly swatter"
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