Metallica MFSL Half Speed Mastered Vinyl April 15th

[postjack]

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Kill 'Em All and Ride the Lightening, Half Speed Mastered by Mobile Fidelity, but released on Elektra. Available in both standard 33 1/3 vinyl and 180g 45RPM.

[deepak]

YES

edit: hehe people on SH are taking about if a Justice reissue would have bass lines or not

[postjack]

edit: hehe people on SH are taking about if a Justice reissue would have bass lines or not

i'd be all up for a remix, but that won't happen. the megadeth "countdown" mfsl remix sounds fucking awesome, i'll buy the vinyl if it ever comes out.

[deepak]

i'd be all up for a remix, but that won't happen. the megadeth "countdown" mfsl remix sounds fucking awesome, i'll buy the vinyl if it ever comes out.

The way they should have released the heavy vinyl is by limited edition box limited to 2500 copies hand signed only by Lars for $300 each, so that people would buy them and sell them on ebay for $2000 even before the vinyl ships

[postjack]

The way they should have released the heavy vinyl is by limited edition box limited to 2500 copies hand signed only by Lars for $300 each, so that people would buy them and sell them on ebay for $2000 even before the vinyl ships

HOLY SHIT THE GHOSTS BOX IS GOING FOR $2000 ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

[deepak]

HOLY SHIT THE GHOSTS BOX IS GOING FOR $2000 ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

Not kidding.

[postjack]

Not kidding.

yeah i just checked ebay. thats wild.

[aardvark baguette]

I knew I should have made an investment on that.

You guys think the Metallica 45's will escalate in value? Because Im ordering like 5 each if thats the case.

[deepak]

So...what do people that have theirs think?

[postjack]

the reviews at sh.tv are poor. They say the overall sound is thin and lacking bass. They keep saying the DCC of RTL is "richer". I probably won't be buying if these reviews keep up. I'll just hunt down original vinyl issues. I already have the megaforce Kill Em All and it rocks.

[909]

this last weekend, i bought kill 'em all at amoeba for $14 (not the 45). besides the recording being a bit low requiring I crank the volume noticeably more than usually and this particular lp having more noise than normal, which might go away with a cleaning or possibly I need to do an exchange, it sounds pretty nice and worth the $14 to me. Though, I have no clue what the original pressing or other copies might sound like, but will soon spin my redbook copy on the Reimyo.

[postjack]

this last weekend, i bought kill 'em all at amoeba for $14 (not the 45). besides the recording being a bit low requiring I crank the volume noticeably more than usually and this particular lp having more noise than normal, which might go away with a cleaning or possibly I need to do an exchange, it sounds pretty nice and worth the $14 to me. Though, I have no clue what the original pressing or other copies might sound like, but will soon spin my redbook copy on the Reimyo.

Cool, I forgot about the cheaper 33 1/3s. I might pick RTL up then.

[deepak]

the reviews at sh.tv are poor. They say the overall sound is thin and lacking bass. They keep saying the DCC of RTL is "richer". I probably won't be buying if these reviews keep up. I'll just hunt down original vinyl issues. I already have the megaforce Kill Em All and it rocks.

I downloaded the needle drop in the SH thread, it does sound bad

[aardvark baguette]

I have some unopened ones, but haven't shipped any to be needle dropped. Maybe there's no point

[NightWoundsTime]

Reviving a dead thread to say that I got Master of Puppets yesterday at my record shop, and it pretty much rules. Need to burn a DCC CD off my computer and do the comparison, probably tomorrow.

[hungrych]

Uh, is there an appreciable difference between the 33s and 45s? They just seem so much more inconvenient.

[postjack]

Reviving a dead thread to say that I got Master of Puppets yesterday at my record shop, and it pretty much rules. Need to burn a DCC CD off my computer and do the comparison, probably tomorrow.

Looking forward to your comparisons. Professional reviews seem good, while the overwhelming opinion at sh is they suck. Since my last post in this thread I've picked up an original Elektra vinyl of AJFA, but I'm still missing MoP, RTL, and Black Album (which is essential to me, anyway).

The midrange guitar tone on the megaforce Kill 'Em All is so righteous.

to hungry: this is a wild guess, but I'd say not much of a difference. Sounds like a 45 is king when one has a revealing system and wants to scrounge that last bit of audiophile oomph from the sound. The argument is that with a 45 there is less chance for distortion all around, but the argument seems about as strong as the whole 180g vs standard weight thing, which is to say not strong at all. it may FEEL nicer to have a 180g vinyl, but we all know we've heard normal weight vinyls that rock house and 180g that fall short (and vice versa!)

[NightWoundsTime]

Maybe the SH people are just championing the DCC's because SH touched them? I'll do the comparison in a bit.

[NightWoundsTime]

Ok so here it is: As of now I can't decide.

Steve's DCC remaster sticks to that 80's thin sound, just cleans it up quite a bit (I did an ABX in Foobar with the DCC and the original CD). The MFSL bumps up the midrange quite a bit and goes for a more modern metal attack that doesn't always work. In the clean slow section of the title track I prefer the MFSL vinyl quite a bit. In the main solo that follows, I also prefer the MFSL because they planted the solo right on top of the mix, instead of buried like on the original CD and the DCC. Granted that does wash out some of what the rest of the band was doing... you could argue that the drums are just as important as the guitar during that solo and they do get buried a bit on the vinyl. Similar results with Orion, which for the most part is a cleaner sound than the rest of the album. The MFSL wins there easily.

Rest of the album with the chunky 16th note guitar attack, I'll take the DCC. The MFSL's added midrange and bass gets quite messy during all this. Vocals sound congested compared to the crisp 80's sound.

So there ya have it, MFSL tries to modernize an 80's album and manages to really succeed for about 20% of the running time.

All listening done with the metal-master ATH-ESW9 headphones and a Corda Move2. Quintete switchbox used to A/B.

[deepak]

edit: thanks for the impressions nwt.

Just read the SH thread here: http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=142502&highlight=metallica&page=14

Most people say the MFSL LP sounds thin and lacking in bass?

Edited October 4, 2008 by deepak

[deepak]

I'm going to be able to borrow Electra first pressings (RL mastered) for RTL and MOP, we'll see how they sound. My friend claims they are slightly better than the DCC gold CDs.

[NightWoundsTime]

No lack of bass on my system. The MFSL just has more bloated bass. Could be blamed entirely on my cartridge or phono stage or whatever.

Cart: Grado Platinum Reference (the entry level wood body cart, high output)

Phono: Channel Islands VPP-1, Wall-wart power supply, not the VAC-1 upgrade.

[postjack]

I owned a Platinum briefly. Good cartridge. The bass can be a bit woolly but I still thought it was lovely. If you like the Platinum's midrange you'll LOVE the Sonata's midrange.