luvdunhill Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 so, I just need to figure out when the K701 was released, figure out the maximum number of burn-in hours, then advertise a pair with this number of hours and some crazy burn-in technology and me + $$$ ?
swt61 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Maybe I could make special wooden burn in stands. I could make the drivers sit flat against wooden pads, and cut holes in the pads, with a straw mounted between the two. I could call that straw a "cross driver burn in wave guide" or some such nonsensical nomenclature. That should be good for at least $200.00.
Salt Peanuts Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Maybe I could make special wooden burn in stands. I could make the drivers sit flat against wooden pads, and cut holes in the pads, with a straw mounted between the two. I could call that straw a "cross driver burn in wave guide" or some such nonsensical nomenclature. That should be good for at least $200.00. Dew Eeet!
gtp Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 The best treatment I've seen of (speaker) burn-in is here: http://www.audioholics.com/education/loudspeaker-basics/speaker-break-in-fact-or-fiction Interesting results IMO. fixed your link for ya
Filburt Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 My experience with the 701 was that, compared to the other pair of headphones I had handy, the 701 maybe changed for a month or so and then it has sounded the same since. I don't know how many hours I used it, but hysteresis on driver construction of this sort isn't particularly surprising nor particularly mystical. Amp burn in, though, is rather voodooish, unexplained, and honestly doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me both based on my experience with electronics generally (and industries reliant upon these parts en masse) and my personal experience with headphone amps. Head-fi is "burn in" crazy and it seems there is little restraint on what people will try to "burn in." Perhaps it's based on some faulty argument from analogy that, since one thing may break in (headphones), it's somehow intuitive that all things will. I also don't care for it being used as a means for certain posters to attempt to downplay the relevance or accuracy of product performance impressions they don't agree with.
Smeggy Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 nenso needs to burn in more, maybe another 50,000 hours. I hear it was more like 75,000 hours.
Smeggy Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 better make it 100,000, just to make sure. But are you sure he'll sound good by then, I'd hate to burn him in all that time and find he still sounds lollerbatshitcrazy.
JBLoudG20 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 But are you sure he'll sound good by then, I'd hate to burn him in all that time and find he still sounds lollerbatshitcrazy. Word of the moment is loltatoes
grawk Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Word of the moment is lollerbatshitcrazy fixed that for you
hYdrociTy Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 This Nenso is Limited Edition, aka deep cryo immersion treated for a week, so you guise need to factor that in. You have to take the stock burn in recommendation hour count and add: [negative temperature (-1)(-330? to about -345? ) multipled by the number of hours immersed (48+ hours)] and then you get your final optimal plateau in the Nenso Burn In Curve. ~85000 hours+ The 7000+ hr Nenso LE was quite upper-mid prominent, somewhat "bright" with "feathered" edges around notes from mids up, a bit edgy and fatiguing all around and lacking in the clean/clear/smooth highs, transparent "window", separation/definition/dimension to instruments, deep/impactful/authoritative bottom end, warmth and more lifelike presentation of the 84000+ hour Nenso LE prototype. With normal burn in of Nenso LE, the youngling blossoms into a real reference level protable gem. On the 31338th hour, there is a bit cleaner, clearer, more "transparent", has greater impact, more distinct separation/delineation of performers and instruments, and better description of the shape/physical volume/material of instruments. Only after the extra burn-in hours to compensate the freeze-in side effects of cryo treatment will Nenso LE mature into the tiniest gem that he is capable of being. Upon post-procedural audition, one finds a complicated/textural hint of juniper in the upper mids, as well as a remarkably layered imaging, lucidity through the extended highs, excellent weight&body to instruments, most complete/complex waveforms for the most complete notes (drums sound most like real drums, as do cymbals, wood-bodied instruments, stringed instruments, etc., etc.) The area of improvement from complete burn-in that is most striking is the erasure of Nenso LE's lack of warm and "body" to vocal throat and chest resonances; it was as if through extensive burn-in, the "boy" matured into a "man."
Smeggy Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Maybe he'd sound better with a rewire. We should ask Alex for a quote.
Fungi Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Maybe he'd sound better with a rewire. We should ask Alex for a quote. We'd need to beef up the power supply to his brain and rewire his entire nervous system. I'm afraid even Alex couldn't handle that.
Nenso Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Maybe he'd sound better with a rewire. We should ask Alex for a quote. *shivers* STAY AWAY! STAY AWAY ALL OF YOU. I WILL NOT HESITATE TO THROW 1/8->1/4 ADAPTORS AND STRANGLE ANYONE WHO COMES ANY CLOSER WITH MY CUSTOM-MADE ALO Male 1/4->2x Female 1/4 SPLITTER! I WARN YOU!
Smeggy Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 *shivers* STAY AWAY! STAY AWAY ALL OF YOU. I WILL NOT HESITATE TO THROW 1/8->1/4 ADAPTORS AND STRANGLE ANYONE WHO COMES ANY CLOSER WITH MY CUSTOM-MADE ALO Male 1/4->2x Female 1/4 SPLITTER! I WARN YOU! Heheh
archosman Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 By the time it's fully burned in you'll need new drivers...
APureSound Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 We'd need to beef up the power supply to his brain and rewire his entire nervous system. I'm afraid even Alex couldn't handle that. I've got steady hands. I will be able to wire it straight into the brain. He should have a few hundred thousand hours of burn in by now. At what point is it burn-out? -Alex-
dc Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 *shivers* STAY AWAY! STAY AWAY ALL OF YOU. I WILL NOT HESITATE TO THROW 1/8->1/4 ADAPTORS AND STRANGLE ANYONE WHO COMES ANY CLOSER WITH MY CUSTOM-MADE ALO Male 1/4->2x Female 1/4 SPLITTER! I WARN YOU! wow did you actually pay ALO to make that for you? must have set you back a pretty penny... how much?
Nenso Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 wow did you actually pay ALO to make that for you? must have set you back a pretty penny... how much? I forgot for sure but maybe around or less than $200 with shipping customs etc..
n_maher Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 I forgot for sure but maybe around or less than $200 with shipping customs etc.. lol
Nenso Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 shiver me timbers, laddy, and man the mainsail, for there be scurvy dogs on the horizon, arrr LAWL. I'm afraid of typing lol right now... mod edit: no cheating, asshat
grawk Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 LAWL. I'm afraid of typing L O L right now... Be afraid to type any variant of it plz, kthnxbai
laxx Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Good lord, did you buy that before or after your complained about the mini-mini braid thread?
JBLoudG20 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 I forgot for sure but maybe around or less than $200 with shipping customs etc.. pwn3d
ojnihs Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 I forgot for sure but maybe around or less than $200 with shipping customs etc.. *slaps head*
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