oicdn Posted January 27, 2008 Report Posted January 27, 2008 Anybody own these? $158 recable for a set of $25 cans. I'm not being skeptical or facetious, I really am curious on the differences.
saint.panda Posted January 27, 2008 Report Posted January 27, 2008 I thought it made the KSC-75 better, but not up to the level of $150 headphones, closed or open. The built-in 75 Ohm impedance was nice, too. Extremely flexible and durable cable - much better than previous aftermarket cables I've had. People spend the same amount of money on HD650 cable upgrades, and considering the time I spent with the KSC-75 when I used it as my primary office headphone, the recabling job was quite bliss.
Smeggy Posted January 27, 2008 Report Posted January 27, 2008 I believe Socrates has a set and likes them a lot. I think you have to be a real fan of the KSC to want to spend that much on a recable though. I need to have my K1000 rewired with a longer piece of string first.
Whirlio Posted January 28, 2008 Report Posted January 28, 2008 I bought the KSC-75s as a replacement for my Ety er6i headphones that I left on a plane, as a stop gap until my wife let me buy I could afford the ER4Ps. I really hated them by the end - and never understood why they have so many fans... uncomfortable / painful, easily broken, sounded annoyingly unrevealing compared to anything I would call 'audiophile'. The only thing that would make them more annoying would be to spend $$$ on them and then comtemplate all the other things I could have bought or saved up for with the money Although I haven't heard the modified product... $158 cables for $25 cabs just sounds like the ultimate upsell... madness! "Would sir like some virgin hand-reared unicorn milk with your Nescafe coffee?"
grawk Posted January 28, 2008 Report Posted January 28, 2008 The ksc75s aren't supposed to be audiophile headphones. They're supposed to be decent euphonic headphones that sound better than they should for the price. If you get them expecting revealing, you'll definitely be disappointed. I like my ksc75s for what they are: headphones to leave in my laptop bag for when I need headphones and can't be cutoff from the world.
Whirlio Posted January 28, 2008 Report Posted January 28, 2008 ^^^ a fair point. Although I can't help but bring up the fact that these have been suggested as a candidate in the sticky 'best headphones' thread and so someone thinks they are audiophile I guess. Anyway, while I do take your point, it seems we both agree that they shouldn't have $158 spent on them to make them sound better?
grawk Posted January 28, 2008 Report Posted January 28, 2008 ^^^ a fair point. Although I can't help but bring up the fact that these have been suggested as a candidate in the sticky 'best headphones' thread and so someone thinks they are audiophile I guess. Anyway, while I do take your point, it seems we both agree that they shouldn't have $158 spent on them to make them sound better? No I think people can do anything they want.
saint.panda Posted January 28, 2008 Report Posted January 28, 2008 (...)it seems (...) that they shouldn't have $158 spent on them to make them sound better? Why not?
Smeggy Posted January 28, 2008 Report Posted January 28, 2008 Why not? Well, yeah. Some people spend over $3000 on an amp for a friggin. senn HD 580, a $150 headphone. Dumb or what!
dc Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 well the recable cost is about the same for any other headphone it's just that in this case the relative price for the cable is much higher than say on a phone worth a thousand i guess the impedance increase does something to the sound... i don't know how much the impedance adaptors sell for normally but yeah...
boomana Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 Well, yeah. Some people spend over $3000 on an amp for a friggin. senn HD 580, a $150 headphone. Dumb or what! Nope. Not dumb at all if you heard them with the right $3000 amp, and if the source is up to the job.
saint.panda Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 Impedance adapters are quite cheap I think. The issue with the KSC-75 is that it's a prime case for diminishing returns, considering that the ratio of "price of upgrade / base price" is huge. But cable upgrades costs are kind of fixed (more or less), so with that in mind, I think it was worth it as long as you don't expect too much.
Smeggy Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 Nope. Not dumb at all if you heard them with the right $3000 amp, and if the source is up to the job. I wuz bein' sarcarstic.
socrates63 Posted January 30, 2008 Report Posted January 30, 2008 Don't expect the recabling to make the $20 KSC75 comparable to $250 headphones as it won't do that -- perhaps comparable to $150 headphones (I don't have any for comparison ) but not $250 (e.g., HD600, DT990). I bought a KSC75 from newegg and had newegg send it directly to Alex for the job. I did it because I wanted the best sounding clip-ons for office use. Clip-on means no headphone hair and open means I can hear someone who knocks on my door. While I haven't done a comparo to my stock KSC75, the APureSound KSC75, needless to say, sound much better than the stock. The overall sound is more crisp and sound separation is better. The APureSound KSC75 sound very good, and I like it better than my bass-challenged Audio Technica EW9 which is probably a better comparison (similar price, both clip-ons). If someone asks about the value proposition of the APureSound KSC75, then you're asking the wrong question. You don't recable a headphone believing that it's a cheaper way of getting better sound. As others and I have implied already, if you want the sound of a $150 headphone, then go buy a $150 headphone. If you want to refine and improve upon the KSC75 sound, then, as commonly said on HC, dew eet.
aardvark baguette Posted January 30, 2008 Report Posted January 30, 2008 How 'bout shunyata anaconda recabled ibuds
socrates63 Posted January 30, 2008 Report Posted January 30, 2008 How 'bout shunyata anaconda recabled ibuds dew eet! and don't forget to post pics for added incentive, I can supply the ibuds for free
Smeggy Posted January 30, 2008 Report Posted January 30, 2008 First off I'm gonna get one of the new KSC-35s from Koss now they have a limited re-release and see how they compare to the 75s. I hear they may well be the better phone without recabling. I really like the 75 as-is anyway.
NotoriousBIG_PJ Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 I could see a ksc-35 recable, but ksc-75 is the suck. Well really neither of these headphones have the resolution or scalability to make it worth it. Biggie.
Smeggy Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 I could see a ksc-35 recable, but ksc-75 is the suck. Well really neither of these headphones have the resolution or scalability to make it worth it. Biggie. I frankly don't care about rewiring for myself. I also don't care whether anyone thinks they are resolving/scalable, I like how they sound and that's a lot more important.
deepak Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 I could see a ksc-35 recable, but ksc-75 is the suck. Well really neither of these headphones have the resolution or scalability to make it worth it. Biggie. Biggie how does the KSC35 compare to the SR-60? IMO the SR-60 is much, much better than the KSC75.
NotoriousBIG_PJ Posted February 7, 2008 Report Posted February 7, 2008 Biggie how does the KSC35 compare to the SR-60? IMO the SR-60 is much, much better than the KSC75. sr60 is more detailed, has more prat, better imaging and more sparkle in the highs. I use flat pads on the sr60's. They both have nice tone, but the sr60 has more of a hump in the upper mids. The ksc-35's has more bass. Neither has good bass detail. Only the ksc-35's fit in my pocket though so I give them the nod for on the go. Biggie.
Smeggy Posted February 7, 2008 Report Posted February 7, 2008 There ya go. I don't like the SR-60 or SR-125. I prefer the MS-1 to both and I still prefer the KSC-75 to all of them. However, it's still a long way from my staxes and K1000s which I prefer to all else I've heard. Guess I'm not a Grado type, and in the interest of fairness, I'm not a Sennheiser type either.
NotoriousBIG_PJ Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 Well if you like fatiguing headphones with an unnatural sheen in the highs then more power to you. Biggie.
Smeggy Posted February 10, 2008 Report Posted February 10, 2008 neither one warrants a recable imo. Mine get scrunched up and tossed in a pocket or dangled around my neck when I'm out and about and I'm not listening to them. They are my outside phones and get beat up a lot and rained on. For home I use my others.
NotoriousBIG_PJ Posted February 11, 2008 Report Posted February 11, 2008 they sound essentially identical. Sure to a speaker guy. Biggie.
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