John Buchanan Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 Could be a USB option......the Mini-DAC has an optional USB board that can be retro fitted. Maybe that is coming for the Duet?
Salt Peanuts Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 if it is it's way too small. Sure looks like one of the tiny USB cable port. It's tempting to take apart, but I'm not the best on re-assembling things. Oops, I had the 4-pin firewire and firewire 800 confused in my head for some odd reason.
grawk Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 No chance it's 4pin firewire, because the duet needs power over firewire, and 4pin firewire doesn't have that.
ingwe Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 Maybe its a slot for a a laptop-type lock? But it seems too large for that.
n_maher Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 I wonder if it's future mini-usb to be fully compatible with the new Macbook line? I suppose that's the logical assumption but odd that they would modify every chassis for it before it's ready for prime time. And even more suspicious that it doesn't have a label to go along with it. Only time will tell what they've got cooking.
Icarium Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 Man if it is mini-usb that could be pretty exciting. Ahwell though I'm firmly in the pico camp
n_maher Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 Man if it is mini-usb that could be pretty exciting. Ahwell though I'm firmly in the pico camp I've heard interesting comparisons between the pico dac and duet as well.
manaox2 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 Maybe its a slot for a a laptop-type lock? But it seems too large for that. While it would be nice for it to be a hint at something, I definitely think that this is what it is.
Salt Peanuts Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 Well, I contacted the support about it, so I'll keep you all posted if I actually here anything back from them.
archosman Posted November 4, 2008 Report Posted November 4, 2008 I'm pretty impressed so far. Been using ER4P's primarily with it at the moment. Just proves again to me that the Etys do have bass. Seems to do an ok job with the Senn 600s... but for the moment I'm only using the Etys while I'm out and about.
blessingx Posted December 5, 2008 Report Posted December 5, 2008 I can vouch the W1000 sounds quite nice from the headphone out. And very very nice with 007t/Sigs. BTW, anyone ever try the Duet case? Room for breakout cable and all? Never thought I'd say this, but may sell the Pico to finance this Duet purchase.
archosman Posted December 6, 2008 Report Posted December 6, 2008 I can vouch the W1000 sounds quite nice from the headphone out. And very very nice with 007t/Sigs. BTW, anyone ever try the Duet case? Room for breakout cable and all? Never thought I'd say this, but may sell the Pico to finance this Duet purchase. Was going to buy it but when I got to the fucking shop the door was locked with a sign saying "By Appointment Only". Went over to Guitar Center to get the Apogee instead. No case though.
blessingx Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 Anyone have their Duets soar up the fan spins? Don't know if this is a MacBook (not Pro) specific issue. I'm finding a few references on the web and at least those are MacBook related. My MacBooks fans slowly soars to 6200 whenever the Duet is plugged in. You just want the rates climb. Even with no activity it hovers at this rate. Kinda a buzz kill as although I love the Duets sound, going from a relatively silence setup (with other sources) to this much computer noise is noticeable. Have completely uninstalled the Duet drivers with no change.
jp11801 Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Posted December 13, 2008 could this be the fact that the duet is powered from the firewire port and the macbook has to kick it up a notch to power itself and the firewire device?
jp11801 Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Posted December 13, 2008 I do not notice any change in self noise with the mac mini but I do not monitor fan speeds
blessingx Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 Maybe JP. If it's localized to just the non-Pro MacBook (which I don't know if is the case) then it could be something with the MB power structure. I just started monitoring the speeds as it's audibly so noticeable. Basically silent with Pico and Parasounds to full blast with Duet. Seems to hover at 6200 rpm from a normal operating sub-1500. smcFanControl temp also shoots up 20+ degrees too. And this is with or without a Thermaltake passive cooling pad. Some discussion at Apple Support here. Seems to either be a power or Firewire driver issue. Or Leopard. Or Apple and Apogee blaming each other. Not looking hopeful. Hmmm. This may make the Duet unusable at least with MacBooks (if used for computing while near audio equipment). Hell it may even be dangerous (at very least to life of fans). Will report back after Christmas (as won't get much time to test before). I know most here use Mac minis with the Duet, though I expect most users elsewhere are on MacBook Pros. Seems like there would be a louder cry if more affected (as there was earlier this year when last update was produced). May only be a MacBook issue. Damn, I so like the sound.
blessingx Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 Not to make too much out of this, but I wonder if this hints to why the Firewire was removed from the current gen MacBook? Maybe the power architecture isn't setup to handle some Firewire scenarios. Certainly the PS are different between the two MacBook models.
Salt Peanuts Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 I don't notice any fan speed increase with my iMac (older white model) while using it with Duet. I also have an older Macbook (2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo) so I'll try out the Duet with it to see if I detect any fan speed increase.
blessingx Posted December 13, 2008 Report Posted December 13, 2008 Thanks. I appreciate it. For comparison I have a 1st gen 2.0 Core Duo MacBook.
Salt Peanuts Posted December 14, 2008 Report Posted December 14, 2008 I connected Duet to MacBook and let it play music through iTunes for about 1.5 hours. FYI, MacBook was plugged into an outlet. For the most part, my fan speed hovered around 4500 rpm while Duet was connected, occasionally going as high as 5200 rpm and low as 4000 rpm. For a point of reference, the fan speed is usually around 1800-2200 rpm. The temp also went up about ~15 degrees as well. The fan noise was clearly audible and distracting, especially during quiet passages on music. I've connected the Duet back to iMac and I've let it play some music for about 40 minute now with no real changes in any of the fan speeds.
Hopstretch Posted December 14, 2008 Report Posted December 14, 2008 No problem either with my mid-2007 iMac, which is basically a comparable MacBook Pro in AIO form factor, right? Fans loaf along at 1200rpm pretty consistently whether the Duet is doing its thing or not.
jp11801 Posted December 14, 2008 Author Report Posted December 14, 2008 forgive the computer ignorance where are getting the fan and temp readings from I am recording 24/96 needle drop samples atm with the duet and would love to see if I am stressing the mac mini
Hopstretch Posted December 14, 2008 Report Posted December 14, 2008 iStat menus, a Mac app by iSlayer
jp11801 Posted December 14, 2008 Author Report Posted December 14, 2008 Ok with duet running while recording 24/96 aiff needledrops my macmini hits a fan speed of 2650 with a CPU temp of 180f so it seems ok
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